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EVE Odyssey, drone UI revamp Implemented?
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Tex' Winchester
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-03-24 04:24:05 UTC
Hello,

I was wondering if the Drone UI changes will be implemented ih the Odyssey expansion.

It has been announced multiple times that drones will be controllable much like other modules instead of having that drone window.

Since there has been talk about this for a pretty long time before the Retribution expansion, and please correct me if i am wrong i believe the first time i heard about it was Fanfest prior to the Inferno expansion,

i thought this would be a feature that most players would consider a good start to introduce in the next expansion.

Right? ;-)
Orlacc
#2 - 2013-03-24 04:48:59 UTC
Please link me to all this talk. Seriously I did not know hat there were concrete statements made by the Devs.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-03-24 06:45:56 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
Please link me to all this talk. Seriously I did not know hat there were concrete statements made by the Devs.
*öpö*

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*lol*
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#4 - 2013-03-24 06:51:29 UTC
Drone improvements will be added right after Yonis variant Abbadon is added to the Ammatar Fleet LP store.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Tex' Winchester
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-03-24 08:09:03 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
Please link me to all this talk. Seriously I did not know hat there were concrete statements made by the Devs.



Hers is a link to the fanfest Keynote as i said prior to the Inferno Expansion, where CCP Soundwave clearly states the New Drone UI as a work in progress.

Enjoy ;-)

http://youtu.be/F7gwuImWezs?t=48m58s

Also here another cool feature that they are working on, target picture in picture ;-) awesome

http://youtu.be/j9Ozvef7CvQ?t=1h58m19s
Nomistrav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-03-24 08:18:34 UTC
I had made a thread a while back asking for the Drone UI to be upped in priority (much to the detest of every null-bear that ever existed wanting something new for their ISK farm).

Unfortunately, CCP's ultimate response is that Drone do need to be re-worked but they have no idea when they will ever get around to re-working them. This was stated in a dev blog (don't remember which one) but the general idea is that the re-implementation is in the pipeline, but we're probably not going to see it until 2014/2015.

Because, yanno, Gallente are armor tanking brawlers - not Persian "drones will blot out the sun" tacticians.

"As long as space endures,

as long as sentient beings exist,

until then, may I too remain

and dispel the miseries of the world."

~ Vremaja Idama
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-03-24 09:09:32 UTC
Nomistrav wrote:
I had made a thread a while back asking for the Drone UI to be upped in priority (much to the detest of every null-bear that ever existed wanting something new for their ISK farm).

Unfortunately, CCP's ultimate response is that Drone do need to be re-worked but they have no idea when they will ever get around to re-working them. This was stated in a dev blog (don't remember which one) but the general idea is that the re-implementation is in the pipeline, but we're probably not going to see it until 2014/2015.

Because, yanno, Gallente are armor tanking brawlers - not Persian "drones will blot out the sun" tacticians.


Gallente have a drone line, and a turret line. Just like Amarr have a partial drone line. However, there has been rampant demand, in large threadnaughts, for rebalancing, fixing sov, fixing industry, fixing moongoo, fixing poses. Considering there has NOT been similar demand to any noticable extent for drones, I don't think that the request you made for a priority increase is going to bear much weight. Don't be too surprised when you don't get a barely requested feature/change/update...
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#8 - 2013-03-24 09:12:27 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
My $15 a month is worth more than yours.


FTFY

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#9 - 2013-03-24 09:18:36 UTC
Arronicus wrote:

Gallente have a drone line, and a turret line. Just like Amarr have a partial drone line. However, there has been rampant demand, in large threadnaughts, for rebalancing, fixing sov, fixing industry, fixing moongoo, fixing poses. Considering there has NOT been similar demand to any noticable extent for drones, I don't think that the request you made for a priority increase is going to bear much weight. Don't be too surprised when you don't get a barely requested feature/change/update...


Demands for drone UI revamp are in fact much older, more prominent and concerning a wider audience than tweaks to null sec.

Drone sig radius could be decreased along with the UI fix, and all drone speeds (especially orbit) buffed slightly, and sentry scoop range changed to 5km to allow short aligning with sentries out.



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Nimrod vanHall
Van Mij Belastingvrij
#10 - 2013-03-24 09:46:54 UTC
Roime wrote:
Arronicus wrote:

Gallente have a drone line, and a turret line. Just like Amarr have a partial drone line. However, there has been rampant demand, in large threadnaughts, for rebalancing, fixing sov, fixing industry, fixing moongoo, fixing poses. Considering there has NOT been similar demand to any noticable extent for drones, I don't think that the request you made for a priority increase is going to bear much weight. Don't be too surprised when you don't get a barely requested feature/change/update...


Demands for drone UI revamp are in fact much older, more prominent and concerning a wider audience than tweaks to null sec.

Drone sig radius could be decreased along with the UI fix, and all drone speeds (especially orbit) buffed slightly, and sentry scoop range changed to 5km to allow short aligning with sentries out.




Please think again about the implications of your proposed drone changes.
Lineath
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-03-24 09:52:13 UTC
Wait for fanfest. Im 95% sure that new drone ui will make his debut in there. Among other things...
GreenSeed
#12 - 2013-03-24 09:52:44 UTC
5km scoop... with the massive hitboxes carriers have means they could drop gardes and have 50% of them in optimal of anything orbiting the carrier... great.

Roime has been playing too much highsec online, needs to play more eve online instead.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#13 - 2013-03-24 10:36:10 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
Nomistrav wrote:
I had made a thread a while back asking for the Drone UI to be upped in priority (much to the detest of every null-bear that ever existed wanting something new for their ISK farm).

Unfortunately, CCP's ultimate response is that Drone do need to be re-worked but they have no idea when they will ever get around to re-working them. This was stated in a dev blog (don't remember which one) but the general idea is that the re-implementation is in the pipeline, but we're probably not going to see it until 2014/2015.

Because, yanno, Gallente are armor tanking brawlers - not Persian "drones will blot out the sun" tacticians.


Gallente have a drone line, and a turret line. Just like Amarr have a partial drone line. However, there has been rampant demand, in large threadnaughts, for rebalancing, fixing sov, fixing industry, fixing moongoo, fixing poses. Considering there has NOT been similar demand to any noticable extent for drones, I don't think that the request you made for a priority increase is going to bear much weight. Don't be too surprised when you don't get a barely requested feature/change/update...


Then you don't read much, the Drone UI has been a joke for years. And the recent AI update created a huge furor about drones.
Personally I'm all for a better AI, but at the same time, the drones need to be fixed so they aren't stupider than a flock of lemmings testing for changes in the gravitational constant.

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2013-03-24 10:46:56 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
5km scoop... with the massive hitboxes carriers have means they could drop gardes and have 50% of them in optimal of anything orbiting the carrier... great.

Roime has been playing too much highsec online, needs to play more eve online instead.


The difference to current is only 2500 meters?

My sec status restricts access to hisec and I try avoid it as much as I can.

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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-03-24 11:01:52 UTC
And while they are fixing drones in general, they could stand to rebalance them aswell.

Right now its a no brainer, you take gallente drones if you want DPS and Minmatar drones for faster aplying of DPS.

Amarr and Caldari drones are largely useless except for maybe the Warden in small niche situations.

I feel like deciding which drones to take should be a real decision, this will also be a +point of amarr drone ships as they have more room for several types of spare drones.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#16 - 2013-03-24 11:05:40 UTC
Roime wrote:
GreenSeed wrote:
5km scoop... with the massive hitboxes carriers have means they could drop gardes and have 50% of them in optimal of anything orbiting the carrier... great.

Roime has been playing too much highsec online, needs to play more eve online instead.


The difference to current is only 2500 meters?

My sec status restricts access to hisec and I try avoid it as much as I can.



Facts, they are irrelevant, especially when they conflict with what people know for sure. Shocked

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Arkenai Wyrnspire
Incorruptibles
#17 - 2013-03-24 11:15:02 UTC
Oh, please give drones some love in Odyssey.

Someone.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#18 - 2013-03-24 11:41:20 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
Please link me to all this talk. Seriously I did not know hat there were concrete statements made by the Devs.




I recall this talk.

But there is no such thing in EVE as a 'concrete statement' until release.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
T'Laar Bok
#19 - 2013-03-24 11:46:55 UTC
I'm easy to please, I just want a launch drones short cut.

Amphetimines are your friend.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/T'Laar_Bok
Tiberius StarGazer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-03-24 11:50:00 UTC
Tex' Winchester wrote:
Hers is a link to the fanfest Keynote as i said prior to the Inferno Expansion, where CCP Soundwave clearly states the New Drone UI as a work in progress.

Enjoy ;-)

http://youtu.be/F7gwuImWezs?t=48m58s


I approve of this Drone interface, so much easier than click target, right click a drone engage/salvage whatever

Can see this bing mega useful.
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