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New player having problems joining corps.

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Tweek Etimua
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-03-23 19:31:19 UTC
Why is it hard for new players to get into a corp.
Would keep playing if I was playing with other people.
Myngero
Myn Industries
#2 - 2013-03-23 19:41:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Myngero
There are plenty of new player friendly corps in New Eden.
Two famous ones are: Eve University and Brave Newbies.

Edit: Added links.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-03-23 22:18:45 UTC
Myngero wrote:
There are plenty of new player friendly corps in New Eden.
Two famous ones are: Eve University and Brave Newbies.

Edit: Added links.


Would like to add RvB.

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#4 - 2013-03-23 22:22:23 UTC
It all depends on how you represent your self. If you are unwilling to open up to the recruiter, jump into the channel and say nothing but "I WANT TO JOIN YOUR CORP!!!", well you can be pretty sure you will get turned away.
Be polite, joke around if the recruiters seem to be open for it, and take your time with asking questions as well as letting them ask you questions.
Also; https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16943&find=unread
Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-03-23 22:24:57 UTC
There is the corp recruitment forum to browse through:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=265

And this database should point you in the right direction:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Educational_organizations?utm_source=Launcher&utm_medium=Banner%2BAd&utm_term=Info&utm_content=Wiki&utm_campaign=Educational

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Andres Talas
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-03-23 22:28:26 UTC
Tweek Etimua wrote:
Why is it hard for new players to get into a corp.
Would keep playing if I was playing with other people.


Yeah, its a problem.

Unfortunatly, its easy to make a new spy toon, and pretend to be a new player, and so corps that take in new players tend to have problems with their assets, internal forums, preferred ship fits, comms details and fleet movements not being as secure as they need to be.

Theres been a couple of corps suggested. Another one, if you're a PvP type is factional warfare - flying around and shooting at people with people, then you'll build the connections you needs (some people in FW have mains in other corps).
Tweek Etimua
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-03-24 00:58:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tweek Etimua
J'Poll wrote:
Myngero wrote:
There are plenty of new player friendly corps in New Eden.
Two famous ones are: Eve University and Brave Newbies.

Edit: Added links.


Would like to add RvB.


The problem I (as a new player) had with RvB was they want you to reach an amount of SP before joing. Well space gets lonely fast....
Orlacc
#8 - 2013-03-24 02:10:17 UTC
SP why not EVE Uni? Quit the sobbing.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Tweek Etimua
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-03-24 02:12:23 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
SP why not EVE Uni? Quit the sobbing.

Never heard back from Eve uni.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-03-24 03:01:18 UTC
NightCrawler 85 wrote:
It all depends on how you represent your self. If you are unwilling to open up to the recruiter, jump into the channel and say nothing but "I WANT TO JOIN YOUR CORP!!!", well you can be pretty sure you will get turned away.
Be polite, joke around if the recruiters seem to be open for it, and take your time with asking questions as well as letting them ask you questions.
Also; https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16943&find=unread


You see NC...sometimes I let you link your awesome post. P

Okay, maybe this time you were lucky that I posted from my cellphone and it's a PITA to copy links on it.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-03-24 03:03:45 UTC
Tweek Etimua wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Myngero wrote:
There are plenty of new player friendly corps in New Eden.
Two famous ones are: Eve University and Brave Newbies.

Edit: Added links.


Would like to add RvB.


The problem I (as a new player) had with RvB was they want you to reach an amount of SP before joing. Well space gets lonely fast....


RvB never had a minimum SP requirement.

You can join RvB straight after you created your character.

So that is just a bunch of bull dung you are talking.

I do agree, joining very soon won't be easy. It's a full PvP corp and with limited SP and ISK you will find it hard to play in the fleets and supply your replacement ships.

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#12 - 2013-03-24 20:47:59 UTC
Also, if you never heard back from EVE Uni, you didn't contact them through the correct channels. This, combined with your misinformation about RvB, tells me exactly what your difficulty is. You aren't trying. Everything in this game is going to take some initiative on your part. If you want to join a corp, do a little research and figure out how they want you to apply. You will find, for example, that RvB accepts everybody who clicks the apply button. When I joined them, the entire text of my application was "YO!!!" You will also find that EVE Uni doesn't accept any in-game applications, but have a specific procedure that they want you to follow to apply.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-03-24 21:11:17 UTC
Will leave this here:

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Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-03-24 21:45:33 UTC
Tweek, it can be difficult for a new player to join a corp.

The only advice I can give you is this: if you get "interviewed" for a corp and they interviewer seems aggressive then that corp isn't worth your energy. Remember, joining a corp is a two way street - you will be benefiting from the corp and the corp will be benefiting from you.

Find a corp that fits your personality, goals, and mentality.

There are tons of corps in EVE that are newbie friendly and there are also tons of corps in EVE that are newbie mean.

Finding a corp that you will fit in with will take some time and some effort but it is worth it.

A good corp will make your EVE experience an incredible one. A bad corp will make you quit.

One thing I've always found worthwhile to do is to try and meet some of the other members of a corp apart from the recruiting agents. If you can, talk to them, and read how they interact in the larger community. If you find that multiple people from a corp are reacting in a manner that you don't appreciate then, chances are, you do -not- want to join that corp. But, remember, a single person isn't an entire corp. A single person only provides a really small window into what a corp may potentially be like (in terms of attitude) so you'll want to base your judgement upon multiple contacts.

You can always check the corp recruitment forum / channel / in-game browser thingie or you could message people whom you've found that you appreciate directly from the forums. So long as you are polite most people wouldn't mind that.

Good luck with your journey to find a corp!
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-03-24 22:00:15 UTC
Fractal Muse wrote:
Tweek, it can be difficult for a new player to join a corp.

The only advice I can give you is this: if you get "interviewed" for a corp and they interviewer seems aggressive then that corp isn't worth your energy. Remember, joining a corp is a two way street - you will be benefiting from the corp and the corp will be benefiting from you.

Find a corp that fits your personality, goals, and mentality.

There are tons of corps in EVE that are newbie friendly and there are also tons of corps in EVE that are newbie mean.

Finding a corp that you will fit in with will take some time and some effort but it is worth it.

A good corp will make your EVE experience an incredible one. A bad corp will make you quit.

One thing I've always found worthwhile to do is to try and meet some of the other members of a corp apart from the recruiting agents. If you can, talk to them, and read how they interact in the larger community. If you find that multiple people from a corp are reacting in a manner that you don't appreciate then, chances are, you do -not- want to join that corp. But, remember, a single person isn't an entire corp. A single person only provides a really small window into what a corp may potentially be like (in terms of attitude) so you'll want to base your judgement upon multiple contacts.

You can always check the corp recruitment forum / channel / in-game browser thingie or you could message people whom you've found that you appreciate directly from the forums. So long as you are polite most people wouldn't mind that.

Good luck with your journey to find a corp!


This.

So far been in 4 corps, 2 own temporary corps and 1 temp corp in null to keep me blue.

Out of the 3 corps I joined in the past, the first was the worst of them but still good. I left due to inactivity and all the corps after that I had a great time in. Usually I parted ways because my goal in EVE changed or the Corp's did and they didn't match anymore. In the last 2 corps I left I still have a lot of friends that I left behind and still keep in contact with both.

My current corp atm is fine, I will never say that it will be my final corp cause you can't know what the future brings.

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

Hans Zwaardhandler
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#16 - 2013-03-25 00:43:49 UTC
The thing with joining player corps is that you have to work at it, and can't just drop in and say "Hi, I'd like to join your corp!" and not work with the recruiters. You've got to be open, talk with them, joke around if possible, and provide an api key if necessary and incorporate yourself into their corporation and such. Much like anything else in Eve, the more effort and time you put into something, the better it is li
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#17 - 2013-03-25 00:53:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
You'll find a lot of corps have a public chat channel, they're always worth joining so that you can get a feel for the corp and the people in it. Take some time, shoot the breeze with them and then decide whether or not they are what you're looking for.

If you speak to a recruiter ask if they have a public channel before you apply, it's a good way for you to get to know them, and vice versa.

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John Klark
Phoibe Enterprises
#18 - 2013-03-25 02:56:26 UTC
I would say that you should have a little experince before you go off half cocked trying to find a corp. Run the tutorials. All of them you can. Be able to get from point A to point B and load and unload stuff in your cargo without asking for help. Then learn a little bit about the diffrent things that can be done in EVE, by reading information pages, listening to podcasts, and just chatting people up in the local channels. This will give you a good grasp of the game and then allow you to find a corp that suits what you want to do in game. Newbie training corps are great, but eventually most people will want to move onto a corp that motivates them by being with like minded individuals. This is easily facilitated when you can have an answer to some of the standard recruitment questions, such as "what do you like to do in EVE?" and "what made you want to join this corp in particular?". Having relevant answers to these question is more likley to get you a spot in that corp rather than saying "I don't know" or "I can do whatever you need me to do." As a recruiter I usually read these to either mean 'I don't know enough about the game yet to be a useful asset to the corp", or that I expect the directors to constantly guide my actions and have ops planned and am going to take no initiative on my own to make the corp better." Both of these are in my "bad "response bin. So to sum up, get a little experience, or seek somewhere that takes new people from the tutorials onward, but continue to learn, and know what you want and expect from a corp, and what they want and expect from you before you commit to them.
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#19 - 2013-03-25 10:43:46 UTC
How hard it is to get into a corp usually depends more on how specific what you're looking for is more than how new you may or may not be.

The general problem for newer players is that they don't really know this yet.

So... my advice would be either play for a bit to figure out what's up before trying to find a corp, or just join one that's "casual" and doesn't really do much beyond some PvE and sharing a chat-room so you have someone to talk to. Remember that corp membership isn't necessarily permanent, people leave with no hard feelings all the time if you find a better fit.

Just don't be a **** to recruiters or corpmates, and don't try to join goonswarm, and you're good.
Woeful Animation
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#20 - 2013-03-25 14:25:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Woeful Animation
Tweek Etimua wrote:
Why is it hard for new players to get into a corp.
Would keep playing if I was playing with other people.



To be honest this was one of my biggest fears about changing games and playing Eve. I started playing just over 2 weeks ago. I found a Corps last weekend, and since then I have been on a couple of roams, done some plexing in addition to mission running on my own..

I'd say I was pretty lucky.

But I followed some advice I learned from my other games, and some advise found elsewhere on these boards.

1. Watch the recruitment channel. Pay attention to who is recruiting and are they new player friendly. Make a list. Send out feelers.
2. Don't get too choosey. You are joining to make new friends and for experience and learning. Remember you want company. They want people to play. They want people on line at different times.
3. If you find one that might fit what you have in mind, then ask questions. If you are interested in trading, do they have regular escort services. If they do mining, then is it organized ect.
4. Are they willing to teach you. Are they available for questions.
4a. Never ask for anything free. The Corps needs you to contribute. They don't need you for a hand out.
5. Keep asking questions until you feel like you know your recruiter. Try to get on voice comms with them, talk to them, get a feel for what they are doing and how you fit in. My real life training became important in this regard. Ask follow up questions. If you don't understand the answer then say so. Keep at it. It's the personality behind the avatar that you are looking to see. The corps itself only becomes relevant to you once you find the right personality.
6. Are you trying as hard to be recruited as they are trying to recruit you? Are you willing to open yourself up. Are they dismissing you as not worth the time.
7. The question that ultimately comes up is, are you a spy? For the new player, the answer is simple. No. So that's the Corps problem not yours.

I spoke with about 4 recruiters. Two of them I didn't like immediately. The guy who hung around and answered all my questions and gave me free advice, his Corps was the one I chose to join.


So yeah, joining a Corps or any established organization is hard. Set yourself up well. Be honest. Engage them in conversation. Plan to spend as much time as is necessary to find one. MMO's are the same in this regard. You want to catch a rising star. You want to find people who are eager and excited about the game and more importantly what they are doing in the game.
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