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The Prophecy - New Maller over tanked cyno bait?
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James Gunnar
Minmatar Academy
#1 - 2013-03-22 18:21:35 UTC
[Prophecy, Prophecy fit]

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Reactor Control Unit II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

10MN Microwarpdrive II
10MN Afterburner II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

50W Infectious Power System Malfunction
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Cynosural Field Generator I

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Drones to taste.
You can fit 3 sentry, 3 heavy and 3 pairs of light drones. I feel the target selection is quite wide with this fit and opted for the that setup.


Quick run down:
140k ehp (84/79.1/75.9/74.3) - 206k ehp with slaves
26.4k raw armor - 40.6k raw armor with slaves
329 Dps with Garde II's
180 with Warrior II's
870/1,222ms MWD w/ heat
356/451ms AB w/ heat

Adding the two plates adds just under 3s to the base align time bringing it to 11.2s, but this can get as high as 14.5s with either the mwd or the afterburner running. Lasts 3m with the mwd running, 24m with the ab and stable with everything on but prop mods.

Im not even sure what I just made. I originally hopped one to tinker around with sentinel and arbitrator fits and wound up putting this together.

Is it just me or does the Prophecy look a little better than it used to?
Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#2 - 2013-03-22 19:30:29 UTC
The proph being cyno bait isn't new though. They switched an almost worthless "damage bonus" (using the phrase liberally) for an actual damage bonus.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#3 - 2013-03-23 17:24:09 UTC
James Gunnar wrote:
Is it just me or does the Prophecy look a little better than it used to?

A "little" better? A lot of us in low-sec are scratching our heads and wondering why CCP hasn't nerfed it yet. It's a monster compared to the other BCs.

Oh well... we'll enjoy it for the time being.

How did you Veterans start?
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#4 - 2013-03-23 18:26:44 UTC
can you fit tech II plates?

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#5 - 2013-03-23 18:58:27 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
James Gunnar wrote:
Is it just me or does the Prophecy look a little better than it used to?

A "little" better? A lot of us in low-sec are scratching our heads and wondering why CCP hasn't nerfed it yet. It's a monster compared to the other BCs.

Oh well... we'll enjoy it for the time being.


Resistance bonus needs a nerf... It's been a major issue when it comes to fleet balance for years. 3.5% or 4% per level instead of 5% would be FAR more reasonable.
Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#6 - 2013-03-23 19:21:36 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
James Gunnar wrote:
Is it just me or does the Prophecy look a little better than it used to?

A "little" better? A lot of us in low-sec are scratching our heads and wondering why CCP hasn't nerfed it yet. It's a monster compared to the other BCs.

Oh well... we'll enjoy it for the time being.


Resistance bonus needs a nerf... It's been a major issue when it comes to fleet balance for years. 3.5% or 4% per level instead of 5% would be FAR more reasonable.


The problem with the prophecy runs deeper than that though.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#7 - 2013-03-23 19:58:37 UTC
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
James Gunnar wrote:
Is it just me or does the Prophecy look a little better than it used to?

A "little" better? A lot of us in low-sec are scratching our heads and wondering why CCP hasn't nerfed it yet. It's a monster compared to the other BCs.

Oh well... we'll enjoy it for the time being.


Resistance bonus needs a nerf... It's been a major issue when it comes to fleet balance for years. 3.5% or 4% per level instead of 5% would be FAR more reasonable.


The problem with the prophecy runs deeper than that though.


Like what? The only thing that makes the proph over the top in the ehp department IS the resistance bonus.
Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#8 - 2013-03-23 20:49:36 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
James Gunnar wrote:
Is it just me or does the Prophecy look a little better than it used to?

A "little" better? A lot of us in low-sec are scratching our heads and wondering why CCP hasn't nerfed it yet. It's a monster compared to the other BCs.

Oh well... we'll enjoy it for the time being.


Resistance bonus needs a nerf... It's been a major issue when it comes to fleet balance for years. 3.5% or 4% per level instead of 5% would be FAR more reasonable.


The problem with the prophecy runs deeper than that though.


Like what? The only thing that makes the proph over the top in the ehp department IS the resistance bonus.


Well for example, it has a capacitor to rival ships that actually use their capacitor, as part of their defenses and their guns.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#9 - 2013-03-23 23:11:35 UTC
Posting in a stealth buthurt market related topic defiantly not created to troll CCP into doing some ones bidding.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#10 - 2013-03-23 23:56:51 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Resistance bonus needs a nerf... It's been a major issue when it comes to fleet balance for years. 3.5% or 4% per level instead of 5% would be FAR more reasonable.


The problem with the prophecy runs deeper than that though.


Like what? The only thing that makes the proph over the top in the ehp department IS the resistance bonus.


Well for example, it has a capacitor to rival ships that actually use their capacitor, as part of their defenses and their guns.

It also has enough CPU and Powergrid to fit a tank, DPS, and utility without having to sacrifice much.

[Prophecy- Front and Center]

[Lows]
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

[Mids]
Small Capacitor Booster II (Navy 200 charges) OR Radar ECCM
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

[Highs]
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II (Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile)
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II (Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile)
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II (Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile)
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II (Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile)
Small Energy Neutralizer II

[Rigs]
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

[Drones]
3x Garde II
5x Warrior II

Notes:
- 95k EHP with 70+% resistances... ~120k EHP with Low Grade Slaves.
- 550+ DPS.
- 4 minutes of capacitor running everything... 70% stable with MWD off.
- burns at ~850 m/sec (which is about the only real drawback)
- has an engagement envelope of about 15km (~20+km with the drones).
- For more DPS, swap out the HAMs for Neutron Blasters.
- For more a more flexible engagement range, use 425 Autocannons or Focused Medium Pulse Lasers.

Try getting a Myrmidon, HAM Drake, or Hurricane to do all this.

How did you Veterans start?
Wash Hemah
Walden 2.0
#11 - 2013-03-24 06:32:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Wash Hemah
show u noobs how to do it:

[Prophecy, Glorificus Elefantus]
Federation Navy 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates
Federation Navy 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates
Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener
Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Corpus X-Type Armor EM Hardener
Corpus X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener

Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Corelum A-Type 10MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Domination Warp Scrambler

Shadow Serpentis Light Electron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Dread Guristas Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Republic Fleet 200mm Autocannon, Republic Fleet EMP S
Dark Blood Dual Light Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II


Federation Navy Ogre x2
Federation Navy Hammerhead x2
Federation Navy Hobgoblin x1

if you want to bait, don't wuss out

577k EHP with hardeners OL (and slaves duh)

and 375 dps, BUT IT HAS *DRUMROLOLOLOL* a rating of 14,724

which is what counts

also it's cheap
cynthia greythorne
Blue Cat Instrumentality
#12 - 2013-03-25 13:03:35 UTC
It is an excellent ship in every way. I sail the Prophecy almost exclusively, for should not our vessels bring us joy? So many other ships frustrate one's desires and ambitions, but the Prophecy, that most splendid of ships, is all that a good ship should be: easily fit, potent, and lovely to behold.

I imagine that it will soon be ruined, down-graded into just another bobbing piece of flotsam, for the Galaxy does not look warmly on such splendour as is the Prophecy, but in the meantime, rejoice!
Goran Konjich
Krompany
#13 - 2013-03-26 07:58:35 UTC
i agree, and i also think proph is a great space vessel ... rejoice as cynthia said.

I'm a diplomat. Sometimes i throw 425mm wide briefcases at enemy. Such is EVE.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#14 - 2013-03-26 17:51:57 UTC
Goran Konjich wrote:
i agree, and i also think proph is a great space vessel ... rejoice as cynthia said.


I also agree with Cynthia, she didn't like the ship, against my advice she got into it and got mad pewpew yo, just do it.
Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#15 - 2013-03-26 19:45:09 UTC
The prophecy changes make me sad to only have drone interfacing to III