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The logistics of buying multiple ships and setting them up for PvP...
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Dominus Immortalus
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-03-20 13:14:58 UTC
I'm new to PvP, and I'm going to take the advice of building 20 ships, setting them up, and then flying them. I'm wondering what the best way of going about this would be. Should I put up a buy order for all the ships and modules, or should I fly around trying to find the best prices. I have to be honest, flying around from station to station does not sound fun.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
Ronix Aideron
Zymurgy Corp.
#2 - 2013-03-20 13:23:10 UTC
If your trade skills are not decent you won't be able to put up buy orders and purchase remotely from them. I would recommend hitting your closest trade hub and buying the ships. Then moving or having a hauling service move them where you need.

Start the day off slow and taper off from there.

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Joantir Sintar
Sebiestor Quartermasters
Circle of Vheroka
#3 - 2013-03-20 13:29:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Joantir Sintar
Start off with frigates, choose one that works with your skills e.g missiles or guns I would recommend a punisher as a first ship for you.

Check killboards for fitting ideas then just buy the fitting from a trade hub eg Jita as T1 fittings will be super cheap.

[Punisher,]
Damage Control I
Small Armor Repairer I
Adaptive Nano Plating I
Heat Sink I

1MN Afterburner I
Warp Disruptor I

Gatling Pulse Laser I,Xray S
Gatling Pulse Laser I,Xray S
Gatling Pulse Laser I,Xray S
Small Nosferatu I

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Energy Collision Accelerator I
Small Energy Discharge Elutriation I
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#4 - 2013-03-20 13:43:05 UTC
As the OP seems to be want to safe money, showing him a 10 mil fit seems not the way to go IMHO.

Therefore:

[Merlin, cheap]

Insulated Stabilizer Array I
Insulated Stabilizer Array I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Medium Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Patterned Stasis Web I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Costs 1.5 mil. Just buy a stack in your local hub, haul them to the edge of lowsec and prepare to lose them en mass.
Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-03-20 13:50:36 UTC
Dominus Immortalus wrote:
I'm new to PvP, and I'm going to take the advice of building 20 ships, setting them up, and then flying them. I'm wondering what the best way of going about this would be. Should I put up a buy order for all the ships and modules, or should I fly around trying to find the best prices. I have to be honest, flying around from station to station does not sound fun.

Thanks in advance for any advice.


Buy them in Jita, then use Red Frog and/or Black Frog to get them to whatever staging system you are basing from. Once they are there, fit them up as needed (ie don't rig them until you undock it).

.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-03-20 13:59:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Takseen
What I did was

Do up a cheap fit in EFT.
Export fit as XML, import to the client.
Go to a trade hub, open the saved fit, rightclick view market details, buy the appropriate quantity of each module, rig and the ship itself.
Courier Contract them to your staging system using Black Frog(or Red Frog if you're basing out of highsec) and wait a couple days.

Once they're there you can use the Fitting window to instantly attach the modules and rigs to your ship. Then just remember to rename it to avoid giving your pilot's name away, and off you go :)
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#7 - 2013-03-20 15:02:23 UTC  |  Edited by: RavenPaine
Buy them all in Jita
Fit them all in Jita
Set yout death clone to a medical station in or near Jita.


Edit here:
The death clone part was actually kind of a joke.
In all seriousness, your ships should be in your home station fitted, ready to undock.
Death Clone should be set directly to a med station (preferably home station also).
Dominus Immortalus
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-03-21 02:44:46 UTC
Thanks for the advice everyone.

It seems like the advice to stay in Jita might be the cheapest and easiest option right now. I'll import my fit (I had no idea I could do that, by the way, so thanks a lot) and start building the ships.

Thanks again!
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#9 - 2013-03-21 04:11:52 UTC
Andre Vauban wrote:
Buy them in Jita, then use Red Frog and/or Black Frog to get them to whatever staging system you are basing from. Once they are there, fit them up as needed (ie don't rig them until you undock it).
This man is not wrong. Park one of your two other characters on your account in Jita so that you never have to travel there with your pvp toon.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#10 - 2013-03-21 14:24:28 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Andre Vauban wrote:
Buy them in Jita, then use Red Frog and/or Black Frog to get them to whatever staging system you are basing from. Once they are there, fit them up as needed (ie don't rig them until you undock it).
This man is not wrong. Park one of your two other characters on your account in Jita so that you never have to travel there with your pvp toon.


once again some gallente talking about alt play tactics !
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#11 - 2013-03-21 14:57:01 UTC
Karak Bol wrote:
As the OP seems to be want to safe money, showing him a 10 mil fit seems not the way to go IMHO.

Therefore:

[Merlin, cheap]

Insulated Stabilizer Array I
Insulated Stabilizer Array I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Medium Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Patterned Stasis Web I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Costs 1.5 mil. Just buy a stack in your local hub, haul them to the edge of lowsec and prepare to lose them en mass.



What an atrociously bad fit...

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#12 - 2013-03-21 15:10:36 UTC
Set up buy orders for the ships and fits you're wanting in advance on a trading alt.

Forget Jita. It's overrated and less convenient for leaving orders to fill in. Use your closest trade hub.

Take advantage of the 'Market Quickbar' and folders for fast mass-ordering.

Forget Red Frog/Black Frog. Again, overrated advice unless you're a power-buyer. Public Contract haulers work for basically nothing, under extortionate amounts of collateral, even if it involves going through low-sec.

Most T1 Indie pilots will be able to move four packaged Frigates with fits as a point of note.

Lastly; if you're keeping Frigates cheap the first things you should consider getting T2 are your weapons and tank. T2 ammo is extremely useful and (opposed to faction which most PvPers will carry anyway) cheap. T2 tank is your next best bet, the higher meta tanking modules that save on PG/CPU tend to run for several million a pop.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.
Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#13 - 2013-03-21 19:33:34 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Andre Vauban wrote:
Buy them in Jita, then use Red Frog and/or Black Frog to get them to whatever staging system you are basing from. Once they are there, fit them up as needed (ie don't rig them until you undock it).
This man is not wrong. Park one of your two other characters on your account in Jita so that you never have to travel there with your pvp toon.


once again some gallente talking about alt play tactics !

Wtf are you on about? Roll

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Ginger Barbarella
#14 - 2013-03-22 23:09:17 UTC
Dominus Immortalus wrote:
I'm new to PvP, and I'm going to take the advice of building 20 ships, setting them up, and then flying them. I'm wondering what the best way of going about this would be. Should I put up a buy order for all the ships and modules, or should I fly around trying to find the best prices. I have to be honest, flying around from station to station does not sound fun.

Thanks in advance for any advice.


I would recommend finding someone who will build them to your specs completely for a fair (read: not basement Jita prices) price and maybe even deliver them to you (in high sec, or use Black Frog to have them delivered to you in low or null).

I can help with that if you'd like; just drop me a line in-game with what you want and I can build a price list for you.

--gb

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#15 - 2013-03-23 03:34:16 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Dominus Immortalus wrote:
I'm new to PvP, and I'm going to take the advice of building 20 ships, setting them up, and then flying them. I'm wondering what the best way of going about this would be. Should I put up a buy order for all the ships and modules, or should I fly around trying to find the best prices. I have to be honest, flying around from station to station does not sound fun.

Thanks in advance for any advice.


I would recommend finding someone who will build them to your specs completely for a fair (read: not basement Jita prices) price and maybe even deliver them to you (in high sec, or use Black Frog to have them delivered to you in low or null).

I can help with that if you'd like; just drop me a line in-game with what you want and I can build a price list for you.

--gb


So like, you're hoping to charge him for buying mods in jita and making a contract to red frog?

When he could just have a 0 skill alt in Jita buy stuff for him, or even his main?
Owena Owoked
Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing
#16 - 2013-03-23 11:14:46 UTC
Dominus Immortalus wrote:
I'm new to PvP, and I'm going to take the advice of building 20 ships, setting them up, and then flying them. I'm wondering what the best way of going about this would be. Should I put up a buy order for all the ships and modules, or should I fly around trying to find the best prices. I have to be honest, flying around from station to station does not sound fun.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

1. go to jita.
2. buy all ships and mods.
3. join red frog and every other shipping channel there is and spam your +600k per jump contract.
4. lose money on shipping?
5. have all you ships where you need them to be.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-03-23 13:01:50 UTC
chatgris wrote:


So like, you're hoping to charge him for buying mods in jita and making a contract to red frog?
When he could just have a 0 skill alt in Jita buy stuff for him, or even his main?


Its what personal shoppers do. Some people are dead lazy.
BadFC
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-03-27 23:01:10 UTC  |  Edited by: BadFC
Dominus Immortalus wrote:
I'm new to PvP, and I'm going to take the advice of building 20 ships, setting them up, and then flying them. I'm wondering what the best way of going about this would be. Should I put up a buy order for all the ships and modules, or should I fly around trying to find the best prices. I have to be honest, flying around from station to station does not sound fun.

Thanks in advance for any advice.


yeah, it's not fun...

if you have the isk for 20 ships and fits, then you can prolly afford the have Red Frog Freight deliver them from a market hub...

Go to Jita, buy all of your ships and modules, then put them on courier contract to your home system. (don't assemble them)
Shintoko Akahoshi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-04-05 20:37:21 UTC
Not to be a wet blanket, but if you're new to PVP, you might not want to kit out 20 ships. You'll take one out, go fight, lose (or win), and learn something that will make you change your mind on those other 19 ships.

I've been PVPing on and off (mostly off, lately) since 2003, and I very seldomly will fly a bunch of identically fit ships. Even back when I was fighting in truly disposable frigates, I'd mix them up until I hit upon the loadouts that really worked for me.

Try this, instead. Buy 3 ships. Set them up. Fly them out to where you want to fight. Do your thing. By the time you've run through those 3 ships, you'll have a better idea of what you want to fly and how you want to fit it.

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Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
#20 - 2013-04-06 09:31:02 UTC
The only thing you will learn with the cheap fits is that a 2 mil frigate will die to a 40 mil frigate 100% of the time.

Your opponent will be more experienced, he wll have those skills at level 5, you need the edge with proper fit, implants and drugs.

Or you can just give up, join a big corp and pretend how 10 to 1 fights are "pvp" and how the only fun in this game is circlejerking on killboards. But then you don't even need guns.
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