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faction repair plan still "the way" ?
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Zap Zarrap
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-03-19 13:59:58 UTC
Kodama Ikari wrote:
Zap Zarrap wrote:
since i am doing missions to get isk anyways, i thought about working on "the plan" to increase faction standing as well.
the corp needs it in the long term and it is a nice serviceoffer one can earn extra isk with.


Zap Zarrap wrote:

thx and as stated preiously, it is not so much (not at all actually) to repair negative standings but to improve standings in such a way that one can setup towers all over the freakin place :-) (if one so desires)


unless "the corp" is more than just you and your alts, or you and a friend or two, then getting faction standings so the corp can set up pos towers is somewhat of a sisyphean task, for a few reasons.

the corp's standing with an npc faction is averaged across all corp members, not just those who have run missions with that corporation. Therefore unless literally everyone and every alt has high faction standings, you will have to resort to kicking people out of corp for a week to get the corp's standing high enough. At the very best, with multiple people with high standings you can afford to keep one or two without standings in corp. For example, if the CEO has a faction standing of 1 (and cannot relinquish control of the corp), and you want to anchor a tower, you would need two characters with a standing of 8, with everyone else being booted from the corp just to anchor a tower in a 0.5 . For .6 or .7 systems, or more than 1 character without standings, the number of people that need to grind high faction standings gets a bit brutal/ridiculous. And btw, grinding a factions standing up to 8 (or even 5) is no small feat. My point being, unless you're a very small corp (and even if you are) there is no reasonable way to avoid having to temporarily boot most of the people in the corp to get a tower down.

Additionally, most of the benefits of npc standings toward a corp are on the level of npc corp -> player corp. I don't know all the benefits, but station services, taxes, refining, etc, are all based on the standings of the player corp in the eyes of the npc corp that owns the station. Furthermore, getting high corporation standings are a few orders of magnitude easier. Corp members without standings at all are not considered/penalized in the calculation. Corp standings go up much quicker, and they can be shared among the fleet.

Having high standings is a good thing, and having high faction standings is also good. If you get all of them high on your character, you can even start your own pos anchoring service. Just don't go into this grind with the notion that your corp will have an easier time anchoring towers at the end.


thx for the input and help. and you are right. but since the corp is veery small atm its not a big deal. and getting to the point to be able to anchor POS in up to 0.6 systems was a pain in the buttocks but actually didnt take that long, just felt like it took forever :-)

btw: will be settiung up my first two POS via self-earned-standings tonight :-)
achieving something in this game is just great.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-03-20 21:54:45 UTC
Zap Zarrap wrote:
its actualy kinda strange. my main finished the amarr epic arc last week. got the implant (which was nice) and corp gains for the missions, but no actual amarr standings boost.

nothing.
before: 6,22 (modified through skills)
after: 6,22 (modified through skills)


did i miss anything ?

also the best / fastest way is the tag agents (cosmos ?)
sure, expensive. but worth every penny as they save sooo much time...

The Epic Arc standing gain has always been hit or miss. Best thing to do is file a petition in-game if it isn't added automatically.

Yes, turning in tags to the Data Center Agents is the easiest and quickest way to gain Faction standing increase.


DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Zap Zarrap
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-03-21 09:33:35 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Zap Zarrap wrote:
its actualy kinda strange. my main finished the amarr epic arc last week. got the implant (which was nice) and corp gains for the missions, but no actual amarr standings boost.

nothing.
before: 6,22 (modified through skills)
after: 6,22 (modified through skills)


did i miss anything ?

also the best / fastest way is the tag agents (cosmos ?)
sure, expensive. but worth every penny as they save sooo much time...

The Epic Arc standing gain has always been hit or miss. Best thing to do is file a petition in-game if it isn't added automatically.

Yes, turning in tags to the Data Center Agents is the easiest and quickest way to gain Faction standing increase.


DMC



ahh good to know that it´s still bugged. will file a petition to get it looked into.
and i got the needed standings now , thanks to the Data Center Agents and the repair plan.

Thumbs up and great piece of work in that
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#24 - 2013-03-21 12:22:53 UTC
Zap Zarrap wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Zap Zarrap wrote:
its actualy kinda strange. my main finished the amarr epic arc last week. got the implant (which was nice) and corp gains for the missions, but no actual amarr standings boost.

nothing.
before: 6,22 (modified through skills)
after: 6,22 (modified through skills)


did i miss anything ?

also the best / fastest way is the tag agents (cosmos ?)
sure, expensive. but worth every penny as they save sooo much time...

The Epic Arc standing gain has always been hit or miss. Best thing to do is file a petition in-game if it isn't added automatically.

Yes, turning in tags to the Data Center Agents is the easiest and quickest way to gain Faction standing increase.


DMC



ahh good to know that it´s still bugged. will file a petition to get it looked into.
and i got the needed standings now , thanks to the Data Center Agents and the repair plan.

Thumbs up and great piece of work in that

After filing a petition and getting a response, double check the standings added, I have had mistakes made in this process on a couple occasions. Once I got 32.1% on one toon, and on another toon 2.3% both toons did it at the same time with the same starting standings, it defies logic Big smile

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-03-23 00:31:08 UTC
Zap Zarrap wrote:


ahh good to know that it´s still bugged. will file a petition to get it looked into.
and i got the needed standings now , thanks to the Data Center Agents and the repair plan.

Thumbs up and great piece of work in that


Thanks, I'm glad it helped you.

Good luck to you.



DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#26 - 2013-03-23 00:35:49 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:
Zap Zarrap wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Zap Zarrap wrote:
its actualy kinda strange. my main finished the amarr epic arc last week. got the implant (which was nice) and corp gains for the missions, but no actual amarr standings boost.

nothing.
before: 6,22 (modified through skills)
after: 6,22 (modified through skills)


did i miss anything ?

also the best / fastest way is the tag agents (cosmos ?)
sure, expensive. but worth every penny as they save sooo much time...

The Epic Arc standing gain has always been hit or miss. Best thing to do is file a petition in-game if it isn't added automatically.

Yes, turning in tags to the Data Center Agents is the easiest and quickest way to gain Faction standing increase.


DMC



ahh good to know that it´s still bugged. will file a petition to get it looked into.
and i got the needed standings now , thanks to the Data Center Agents and the repair plan.

Thumbs up and great piece of work in that

After filing a petition and getting a response, double check the standings added, I have had mistakes made in this process on a couple occasions. Once I got 32.1% on one toon, and on another toon 2.3% both toons did it at the same time with the same starting standings, it defies logic Big smile

I've had a GM give me 33% as well when I petitioned it. You'd think someone would just fix the stupid arc but I guess not enough people do it for that to be a good use of someone's time.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2013-03-23 04:08:09 UTC
There will be different amounts of standing gained for each character who completes the epic arc. That is expected due to the varying levels of Social skill trained by each character.

Now if the GM gave you more standing increase than what you're actually entitled to receive..................then the error is definitely in your favor.


DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#28 - 2013-03-23 04:23:57 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
There will be different amounts of standing gained for each character who completes the epic arc. That is expected due to the varying levels of Social skill trained by each character.

Now if the GM gave you more standing increase than what you're actually entitled to receive..................then the error is definitely in your favor.


DMC

The standard increase should be 10% plus .5% for every level of Social trained. But for some reason when a GM is required to add the standing they have some formula or undecipherable standard measure they use to add the standings, often with unique results.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
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