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Push Industries - March 2013 Service Changes
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Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
#41 - 2013-03-18 02:51:07 UTC
If you read carefully what I said, is that you were faster in the first few month (really good numbers under 12h) but got sloppy for the rest of the year. I would love a month by month comparaison, but alas.

As for the harassement, replying to false accusation is hardly harassement.

Stop asking your customers to lie about service from us, and i'll stop mailing them.

As for your corpmate, they come to me, not the other way around.
Locin WeEda
Red Frog Investments
#42 - 2013-03-20 20:08:27 UTC
Siigari Kitawa wrote:


PUSHX:
FAILED CONTRACTS:
RFF: 194 (0.001892%)
PUSHX: 44 (0.001828%)

I would like to note that our ratio of completion is better than yours overall. If we're playing a numbers game, we basically complete all our contracts faster than RFF and fail just as many as you, if not LESS. Note this also includes high value contracts that include special cases above 5 billion.


Thanks for the comparison, Siigari. First of all, I'd like to complement PushX for being our competitors. I for one, enjoy having competitors, and too many past competitors have failed too soon after launch. PushX has stayed on. I think having active competitors have made us better than we would have been without them. It is a welcome reminder to not become complacent, which I think we needed around the time PushX came onto the scene. I also think it is good for customers to have a choice.

Now, onto why I chose to come out of my cave and answer:

To compare the failure rates between Red Frog and PushX, it would probably be a more fair comparison if you compared RFF+BFF with the high-sec part of PushX, since you include high collateral contracts in your numbers, and we organize those contracts differently within Red-Frog.

Failure rates:
RFF + BFF: 195 of 106 560 accepted contracts (0,1829%)
PUSHX: 44 of 24114 accepted contracts (0.1824%)

Statistically, these failure rates are identical (no significant difference), and both corporations show a remarkable low failure rate in my opinion. The numbers were also presented slightly wrong in your post (you forgot to multiply with 100 before adding the percent sign).

Anyway, I look forward to more comparisons between PushX and Red-Frog for 2013. Happy Hauling!

Locin WeEda

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Siigari Kitawa
Operation Sleepless
#43 - 2013-03-20 21:57:39 UTC
Thanks for the response. And yeah, I suck at numbers (the hundreths and percentages lol.)

Anyway, yeah I'd have posted something about BFF but you guys didn't have a lot of numbers for them so I just took what you had offered a comparison.

Also, I'd like to say Locin, you handle the nuances of being a spokesperson well.

Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX
Rita Jita
Caldari Provisions
#44 - 2013-03-23 02:21:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Rita Jita
hmm. would be interesting to see how we compare.

open to suggestion to pull data ?

possible ask CCP to cross check contracts performed by people in our channel.

other than this i have no idea lol.

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