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A Call for a Neutral Caldari Prime Provisional Government

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Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#1 - 2013-03-22 23:21:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Rall Mekin
By now, I am sure everyone knows my Caldari blood is boiling. However, I will not mince words towards my Gallente… cousins, nor will I call forth the fiery rhetoric of war. None of this is productive.

I WILL however call for the following:

I call to both the Caldari and the Gallente governments to sign an immediate cease fire. I call that Caldari Prime be recognized as both Gallente and Caldari territory, and to be ruled by a government body that is neither purely Caldari nor Gallente.

In the interest of Galactice Peace, to avoid the miasma of innocent bloodshed, I pray to the leadership of all Four Empires to meet immediately and negotiate a framework by which Caldari Prime be deemed a “neutral zone” for both Gallente and Caldari. The system will be protected by an equal compliment of warships, crews, and soldiers from both the Gallente and Caldari governments. Each empire will furnish a full complement of warhsips and supercapitals, which will be placed under the jurisdiction of the Neutral Caldari Prime Provisional Government. All stations in orbit of Caldari Prime or its satellites will be considered property of the Neutral Caldari Prime Provisional Government. Those serving in the navy of Caldari Prime will swear an oath to the provisional government of Caldari Prime, and then to any permanent government that it shall promulgate.

This Neutral Caldari Prime Provisional Government will be made up of an equal body of Caldari and Gallente citizens who have abode on Caldari Prime during the last 5 years. Caldari Citizens and Gallente Citizens shall elect 5 representatives each of their populations, and an eleventh seat should be held by an off-world appointee neutral to the conflict and the two sides. I suggest an appointee of CONCORD. This eleventh seat will act as the CEO or President of the provisional board of Caldari Prime. I would propose this representative be chosen by the newly elected officials of Caldari Prime.

I propose that this group then take to task writing, publishing for public commentary and review, and then setting to election a Constitution for both the planet and solar system that allows populations of Gallente and Caldari to coexist freely and provides that is to be considered both Territory of the Federation and the State. The planet shall then serve as a diplomatic headquarters and meeting grounds for both the Federation and State governments to meet, but all soldiers and ships in orbit or on the ground of Caldari Prime shall not be loyal to either Caldari or Gallente governments, but to the government of Caldari Prime.

My hope in this proposal is to see the planet both belong to each people and yet belong to the people of the planet who have suffered. Much as the Khanid Kingdom has become a blend of Caldari and Amarrian ideals, I hope that this planet, funded, maintained, and supported by an equal investment of both the Caldari and Gallente governments, will foster peace not only between our two divided peoples, but also the galaxy. My hope is that it will ultimately become a shining beacon of light to the galaxy,a diplomatic headquarters for not only Caldari and Gallente, but the Four Empires and, even more, for any government, corporation, or faction at odds with another. My hope is that Caldari Prime will not only be able to be a home world for the Caldari again, but an eternal honor upon my people’s head, as a place that fosters peace and prosperity for everyone.

I would remind everyone that we are all one people ultimately and all sprang from one source. According to the most ancient of legends, we are all the people of Earth who arrived here by the Eve Gate. Amarr, Caldari, Minmatar, Gallente—we all share one bloodline that over millennia has become many. I believe it is time that we—recognizing we are all Terrans ultimately—put aside our differences, and make a better galaxy for our children.

Yes, I know that my statements earlier today seem hypocritical now. I was infuriated over the death of my nephew aboard the Shiigeru and possible deaths of my family. I wanted blood, as many, many do still. Please, however, please. We are all human; we are all Terran. Let us take a step towards maintaining peace.

While I am a capsuleer, not everyone is. What about the trillions of lives at state among the Four Empires? Open war between the Caldari and the Gallente only means open war between all four sides. I daresay that in this conflict and age of super weapons, not only will hulls be broken, but worlds will be scorched and cracked in the cold of space. We must act now, or billions, possibly trillions, will die.
Adel Khamez
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-03-22 23:23:52 UTC
They won't do it.

They will bombard Provist positions from orbit, and put terrorist organizations in charge of the planet.

Bet on it.

Amarr Victor, Deus Vult!

Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#3 - 2013-03-22 23:25:01 UTC
Adel Khamez wrote:
They won't do it.

They will bombard Provist positions from orbit, and put terrorist organizations in charge of the planet.

Bet on it.


If enough people cry out for it across the galaxy, they will yield.
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#4 - 2013-03-22 23:37:42 UTC
Oh, sure... now that we've driven the Caldari Navy from space, ya'll all of a sudden want the area to be "neutral."

Where were you over the last few months?
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#5 - 2013-03-22 23:39:32 UTC
It's too late for this.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#6 - 2013-03-22 23:44:23 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
Oh, sure... now that we've driven the Caldari Navy from space, ya'll all of a sudden want the area to be "neutral."

Where were you over the last few months?


In the same thread you were posting in. In the various threads about coming to some sort of neutral peace agreement. It wasn't all Gallente making the effort Ms. Vero, I'd appreciate it if you didn't act like it.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb

Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#7 - 2013-03-23 00:09:43 UTC
Simon Louvaki wrote:


In the same thread you were posting in. In the various threads about coming to some sort of neutral peace agreement. It wasn't all Gallente making the effort Ms. Vero, I'd appreciate it if you didn't act like it.


I was referring only to the two who'd posted before me in this topic. I don't recall seeing them vocal in the ranks of those calling for a peaceful settlement.

I believe the first step for the Caldari here should be obvious. Your leadership has failed you. Treat them as their choices have merited.
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-03-23 00:35:35 UTC
Interesting proposition.

However regarding all the comments you've made so far regarding the Federation and the battle for Caldari Prime, I'm not capable of taking it seriously.

Good day.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 

James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#9 - 2013-03-23 00:47:15 UTC  |  Edited by: James Syagrius
Rall Mekin wrote:

I call to both the Caldari and the Gallente governments to sign an immediate cease fire. I call that Caldari Prime as well as the Luminaire solar system be recognized as both Gallente and Caldari territory, and to be ruled by a government body that is neither purely Caldari nor Gallente.

Let me try to explain something to you.

I understand and even agree that Caldari Prime ought to be "given" to the State. But Luminaire!

How can you with a straight face purpose this after what just happened.

I understand that you fight for Caldari Prime. What you don't seem to understand is that we will never allow Luminaire to be anything but Federal. Never!
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#10 - 2013-03-23 00:50:27 UTC
And now we're at stage three, bargaining.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#11 - 2013-03-23 00:56:27 UTC
Let's see shall we.

Caldari prime has been a Federation planet since before you even had the ability to get into space.
those Caldari who didn't want to remain Federation citizens, and that was not all of the Caldari people, abandoned it 200 years ago.

then they returned and punished those who had remained Federation citizens as either 'the enemy' or traitors.

so i don't think they're likely to want to return to the stewardship of the Caldari, it is in fact FAR more likely that they will want to return to the more peaceful and stable lives they led for two centuries or more under Federation rule.

saying you were utterly forced from the planet seems odd when millions of your kin remained on planet and seemed happy to remain under Federate law and rule.

Still, I'm just a little Intaki voice. what would I know about having your planet invaded by Caldari thugs.
oh, wait.
nevermind.

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.

Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#12 - 2013-03-23 01:02:04 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
Rall Mekin wrote:

I call to both the Caldari and the Gallente governments to sign an immediate cease fire. I call that Caldari Prime as well as the Luminaire solar system be recognized as both Gallente and Caldari territory, and to be ruled by a government body that is neither purely Caldari nor Gallente.

Let me try to explain something to you.

I understand and even agree that Caldari Prime ought to be "given" to the State. But Luminaire!

How can you with a straight face purpose this after what just happened.

I understand that you fight for Caldari Prime. What you don't seem to understand is that we will never allow Luminaire to be anything but Federal. Never!


I'm sorry for the mistype. My speechwriter and proofreaders have been fired.

Luminaire solar system was not to appear in the final edit of my proposal. It should be noted that such a government would put *both* people's home worlds under the jurisdiction of a neutral government, but I decided against the incendiary results such a proposal might cause.

My official proposal is being edited as we speak.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#13 - 2013-03-23 01:04:01 UTC
A neutral Luminarie is the only way I see, personally, of forging a lasting peace that ensures the safety and protection of our shared cultural home worlds AND CONCORD has proven less than useful nor effect over the previous week. If this were to ever gain traction, I believe I could support a form of this proposal.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb

Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#14 - 2013-03-23 01:06:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Rall Mekin
Simon Louvaki wrote:
A neutral Luminarie is the only way I see, personally, of forging a lasting peace that ensures the safety and protection of our shared cultural home worlds AND CONCORD has proven less than useful nor effect over the previous week. If this were to ever gain traction, I believe I could support a form of this proposal.


I have edited my official proposal removing Luminaire solar system, but you do bring up a good point.

Perhaps including the Gallente home world under this new government SHOULD be in the proposal considered by our heads of state, should they take it up, and perhaps I should rehire my staff?

After all, it is normal to impose sanctions against aggressors for crimes against humanity.
Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#15 - 2013-03-23 01:09:33 UTC
Mekhana wrote:
Interesting proposition.

However regarding all the comments you've made so far regarding the Federation and the battle for Caldari Prime, I'm not capable of taking it seriously.

Good day.


I'm VERY SORRY that I was grieving over my dead nephew.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#16 - 2013-03-23 01:11:29 UTC
iyammarrok wrote:
Let's see shall we.


Yes, lets see shall we?

iyammarrok wrote:
Caldari prime has been a Federation planet since before you even had the ability to get into space.


False, Caldari Prime has been a Caldari planet since before we had the ability for space travel. We co-founded the Federation and held lay the foundation of the Federation. We were a member state, not a serf.

iyammarrok wrote:
those Caldari who didn't want to remain Federation citizens, and that was not all of the Caldari people, abandoned it 200 years ago.


The Federation's attack on our people (yes they shot us out of the sky as our ships tried to flee) is what largly prevented the full evac of Caldari Prime. We ran out of time. While there were certainly those who didn't want to leave, there were still those who did but didn't get a chance to and were prevented from leaving.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb

Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#17 - 2013-03-23 01:11:38 UTC
iyammarrok wrote:

then they returned and punished those who had remained Federation citizens as either 'the enemy' or traitors.


Such blatant biese and propaganda. Did you not watch the vids of the riots on Caldari Prime? the corraling of our people into ghettos and segregation of the populace by Federal troops after the decleration of martial law? did you not hear the cries of anger after the dececration of our holy sites and ancestors graves? We hardly returned to punish our own people.

iyammarrok wrote:
so i don't think they're likely to want to return to the stewardship of the Caldari, it is in fact FAR more likely that they will want to return to the more peaceful and stable lives they led for two centuries or more under Federation rule.


We haven't really taken a vote, but I know quite a few people who are much happier under the employee of Hayasyoda than they were under Federal martial law.

iyammarrok wrote:
saying you were utterly forced from the planet seems odd when millions of your kin remained on planet and seemed happy to remain under Federate law and rule.


See my first point, and not to mention the history books.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb

Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#18 - 2013-03-23 01:16:53 UTC
Am I to understand that many of our capsuleer brethren would prefer outright war between the sovereign empires as opposed to a neutral hub of peace and diplomacy?
Zsaryna Adrelana
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2013-03-23 01:20:14 UTC
iyammarrok wrote:
Let's see shall we.

Caldari prime has been a Federation planet since before you even had the ability to get into space.
those Caldari who didn't want to remain Federation citizens, and that was not all of the Caldari people, abandoned it 200 years ago.

then they returned and punished those who had remained Federation citizens as either 'the enemy' or traitors.

so i don't think they're likely to want to return to the stewardship of the Caldari, it is in fact FAR more likely that they will want to return to the more peaceful and stable lives they led for two centuries or more under Federation rule.

saying you were utterly forced from the planet seems odd when millions of your kin remained on planet and seemed happy to remain under Federate law and rule.

Still, I'm just a little Intaki voice. what would I know about having your planet invaded by Caldari thugs.
oh, wait.
nevermind.


How would you define escaping a blockade, orbital bombardment and eventual deployment of ground assets as "not forced to leave"?
Said transports were fired upon when they tried to leave. So let me get this straight, they were willing to risk their lives to leave and you say they were "not forced" to leave... How the hell does that work?
Let's not forget that the Intaki got a relatively good deal when it came to the Caldari bidding for worlds.
You got Ishukone and Mordu's legion rather than Lai Dai or KK.
You got a relatively good deal

I do this for many reasons. I do it because I believe it is right. I do it because I will profit by it. These all consolidate into one reason: I do it because I can.

Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#20 - 2013-03-23 01:30:38 UTC
Rall Mekin wrote:


I have edited my official proposal removing Luminaire solar system, but you do bring up a good point.

Perhaps including the Gallente home world under this new government SHOULD be in the proposal considered by our heads of state, should they take it up, and perhaps I should rehire my staff?

After all, it is normal to impose sanctions against aggressors for crimes against humanity.


I personally do not believe that any change in soverignty is needed, but the system be created as a demilitarized zone. Originally I had in mind for CONCORD to take over security detail, but my faith in both their abilities and the merit of neutrality have been called into question as of late. Ideally, a joint peace keeping force between our two navies would take over and any member states belonging to the Federation would be free to take up security of their respective air and space zones locally.

This would, in my mind, help foster trust and cool diplomatic relations through joint purpose.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb

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