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Did CCP just prove they are a failure at the single shard universe?
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Leetha Layne
#41 - 2013-03-22 21:28:25 UTC
I'll take door number 3 Monte!
Dash Bishop
Doomheim
#42 - 2013-03-22 21:35:37 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
They invited the whole community to a massive pvp event and then the whole thing toppled because too many people showed up. Despite them hosting the event and being ready for a player spike way in advance?

No, not really.

There was a system cap of 1600 people...


There tends to be around 40-45,000 people logged in during this time of day. Advertising a huge, groundbreaking, OMG you've got to participate in this event...and only accommodate 4% of the people playing the game?

Seems like epic fail to me.

Caldari Militia ☜✫☞
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2013-03-22 21:46:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Klarion Sythis wrote:
Single shard doesn't mean single system. Are so many people really just figuring out how this game works? The tears of uninformed entitlement are reaching flood levels today.
You have no idea ... it's much worse.

Can't believe the amount of whine that's flowing around.
Akai Kvaesir
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
#44 - 2013-03-22 22:32:35 UTC
Dash Bishop wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
They invited the whole community to a massive pvp event and then the whole thing toppled because too many people showed up. Despite them hosting the event and being ready for a player spike way in advance?

No, not really.

There was a system cap of 1600 people...


There tends to be around 40-45,000 people logged in during this time of day. Advertising a huge, groundbreaking, OMG you've got to participate in this event...and only accommodate 4% of the people playing the game?

Seems like epic fail to me.

Don't forget that this wasn't just an EVE event, but (to my admittedly narrow scope of knowledge) the first Dust+EVE live event, which is still an achievement. Plus, its not like live events have really had much player attendance in the past, so really, your just complaining that there was more interest (and less capacity) than you would normally expect. And as to the amount of PR that went into it, the same could be said of Burn Jita, but thousands of players cried vast rivers of tears at being caught unawares, so you can't really blame CCP for a rather pessimistic view of how many players would actually attend.

You can't complain that live events are a waste of time while at the same time complain that you couldn't attend said waste of time.

Well, you CAN, but you'd be idiotic and deranged to expect such complaints to be received with appreciation.

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Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-03-23 00:36:06 UTC
No. CCP proved they are a failure at player-interactive live events. There is a big difference.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-03-23 00:37:05 UTC
Dash Bishop wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
They invited the whole community to a massive pvp event and then the whole thing toppled because too many people showed up. Despite them hosting the event and being ready for a player spike way in advance?

No, not really.

There was a system cap of 1600 people...


There tends to be around 40-45,000 people logged in during this time of day. Advertising a huge, groundbreaking, OMG you've got to participate in this event...and only accommodate 4% of the people playing the game?

Seems like epic fail to me.



2.5% you mean. 4% would have been a MASSIVE improvement.
dark heartt
#47 - 2013-03-23 01:16:10 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
[quote=Angelique Duchemin]I
Also, many people don't really understand what 13% Tidi means, and think that they were lagging out when their computer didn't respond to their commands immediately. Smile



Ain't that the truth.

http://tetrisisunrealistic.blogspot.com.au/
dark heartt
#48 - 2013-03-23 01:17:12 UTC
Dash Bishop wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
They invited the whole community to a massive pvp event and then the whole thing toppled because too many people showed up. Despite them hosting the event and being ready for a player spike way in advance?

No, not really.

There was a system cap of 1600 people...


There tends to be around 40-45,000 people logged in during this time of day. Advertising a huge, groundbreaking, OMG you've got to participate in this event...and only accommodate 4% of the people playing the game?

Seems like epic fail to me.


Considering that live events have pretty much flopped in the past, they just went off experience.

http://tetrisisunrealistic.blogspot.com.au/
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#49 - 2013-03-23 09:48:12 UTC
Dash Bishop wrote:


There tends to be around 40-45,000 people logged in during this time of day. Advertising a huge, groundbreaking, OMG you've got to participate in this event...and only accommodate 4% of the people playing the game?

Seems like epic fail to me.


4% bothering with a RP event with none or limited impact on the market or anything else that matters seems a disturbingly high figure ;)

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Boozer Hoover
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2013-03-23 10:24:22 UTC
Speaker4 theDead wrote:
Why would you hold a live event, then prevent most people from being involved?

If you really can't provide the level of equipment needed to actually allow players to play the game, then you have failed at this idea...

Of course a sharded universe in EvE would probably be even a bigger failure, so maybe you should invest in equipment that can actually provide the service you claim to?

J






The event started at downtime and for the first 5 hours anyone could come in, those who waited until 20 Moros where on dscan where a bit too late.


That being said, a queue system would have been nice
Athena Maldoran
Doomheim
#51 - 2013-03-23 10:28:40 UTC
Boozer Hoover wrote:
Speaker4 theDead wrote:
Why would you hold a live event, then prevent most people from being involved?

If you really can't provide the level of equipment needed to actually allow players to play the game, then you have failed at this idea...

Of course a sharded universe in EvE would probably be even a bigger failure, so maybe you should invest in equipment that can actually provide the service you claim to?

J






The event started at downtime and for the first 5 hours anyone could come in, those who waited until 20 Moros where on dscan where a bit too late.


That being said, a queue system would have been nice




1 hour after down time the system had about 500 people in it.
2 hours it was close to 1k
After that it was hard getting into the system
flakeys
Doomheim
#52 - 2013-03-23 10:33:13 UTC
Boozer Hoover wrote:





The event started at downtime and for the first 5 hours anyone could come in, those who waited until 20 Moros where on dscan where a bit too late.


That being said, a queue system would have been nice


You should really buy a new watch ....

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
flakeys
Doomheim
#53 - 2013-03-23 10:40:11 UTC
Akai Kvaesir wrote:
the same could be said of Burn Jita, but thousands of players cried vast rivers of tears at being caught unawares, so you can't really blame CCP for a rather pessimistic view of how many players would actually attend.

.


Burn jita was a player event BIG difference there.

Also those that say usually live events draw less attention might be true but the thing is CCP overdid it with hyping it and got the backfire from it.If someone asks if it's gonna be one big free for all no concord party and CCP's response is 'come and find out yourself Lol' you should be aware that you are then drawing a LOT of people to it.
Had they been clear from the start then a LOT of those that showed up would not even have bothered in the first place.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Dave Stark
#54 - 2013-03-23 10:44:12 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Boozer Hoover wrote:





The event started at downtime and for the first 5 hours anyone could come in, those who waited until 20 Moros where on dscan where a bit too late.


That being said, a queue system would have been nice


You should really buy a new watch ....


confirming i had 0 trouble getting in to luminaire about an hour before the event with a mammoth full of atrons.
Prince Kobol
#55 - 2013-03-23 10:46:26 UTC
Speaker4 theDead wrote:
Why would you hold a live event, then prevent most people from being involved?

If you really can't provide the level of equipment needed to actually allow players to play the game, then you have failed at this idea...

Of course a sharded universe in EvE would probably be even a bigger failure, so maybe you should invest in equipment that can actually provide the service you claim to?



Which other MMO can hold a live event that involves 1600 people shooting each other and also generate the amount of tears, rage and butthurt that Eve does?
Tiberius StarGazer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#56 - 2013-03-23 10:51:33 UTC
Was a bit gutted that I couldn't be there for the state....

But I was at work so couldn't do anything really.

I would have quite happily fought through the frog navy to be there.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#57 - 2013-03-23 11:09:49 UTC
Delicious tears.....most indeed.


As if there won't be another event.


Ever heard of a Trial Run ?

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Doc Severide
Doomheim
#58 - 2013-03-23 13:13:18 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Delicious tears......


This has got to be the most stupid, idiot statement tossed around in EVE right up there with "Go back to WOW"...
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#59 - 2013-03-23 13:19:46 UTC
Doc Severide wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Delicious tears......


This has got to be the most stupid, idiot statement tossed around in EVE right up there with "Go back to WOW"...


Except in this case i think its true, the amount of uninformed and selfentitled whining was and is immense.

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Turelus
Utassi Security
#60 - 2013-03-23 13:39:42 UTC
CCP used what could have been a great story event as a cheap way to promote dust and EVE.
The live stream was so terrible just because of the "JOIN EVE AND DUST!, DUST IS FREE PLAY NOW! YOU CAN DO THIS EVERY DAY IN EVE SIGN UP NOW!"

For the tears over the railroading, that I can live with (though the spoilers almost a week before ruined it) the event was ruined for me in that all the small RP groups who turned up had no chance to fight without welping a fleet because there was no way to tell who was fighting for who.
If you were not fleeted with someone of part of a large alliance NAP you had nothing to do but KM Whore and hope you got out alive.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security