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Did CCP just prove they are a failure at the single shard universe?
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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#21 - 2013-03-22 20:03:58 UTC
Still a bigger fight than any other MMO can pull offBlink
S'Way
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-03-22 20:05:27 UTC
The mind boggling thing is they limited the number of people in Jita at a time - then decided to hold an event for everyone who wants to take part in a single system.

The only way a live event would be a real success is by spreading the event over a few systems (say a constellation), that way there's no need for queues to get into one single laggy system.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#23 - 2013-03-22 20:07:13 UTC
S'Way wrote:
The mind boggling thing is they limited the number of people in Jita at a time - then decided to hold an event for everyone who wants to take part in a single system.

The only way a live event would be a real success is by spreading the event over a few systems (say a constellation), that way there's no need for queues to get into one single laggy system.

I tend to agree with this, they need to take the strain off of individual systems in a large scale event like this... however that means that any Dev's present will need to be spread throughout those systems as well which puts a strain on manpower.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#24 - 2013-03-22 20:08:02 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
I have been avoiding this whole thing in it's entirety by hunkering down with a bag of chips and a game of "Don't starve" but let me see if I get this straight.


They invited the whole community to a massive pvp event and then the whole thing toppled because too many people showed up. Despite them hosting the event and being ready for a player spike way in advance?

No, not really.

There was a system cap of 1600 people, so there was a considerable group at the entrance gates waiting their turn. Once people started dying many of those people waiting got in... while many that died went back in the que to wait their turn.

Also, many people don't really understand what 13% Tidi means, and think that they were lagging out when their computer didn't respond to their commands immediately. Smile


Standing in line to pew? What kind of blasphemy is that?

Only in high sec....

People stand in line in EvE to go shopping, what's so surprising about standing in line to fight? Smile

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Alli Ginthur
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-03-22 20:09:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Alli Ginthur
Jenn aSide wrote:
Very easy solution. Next time hold the event 1 jump into null sec, that will eliminate 95% of high sec participation in a snap, thus no lag.


Better yet, hold it in a wormhole, eliminate 95% more of the playerbase, not just the hi-seccers Blink
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#26 - 2013-03-22 20:10:47 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
I have been avoiding this whole thing in it's entirety by hunkering down with a bag of chips and a game of "Don't starve" but let me see if I get this straight.


They invited the whole community to a massive pvp event and then the whole thing toppled because too many people showed up. Despite them hosting the event and being ready for a player spike way in advance?

No, not really.

There was a system cap of 1600 people, so there was a considerable group at the entrance gates waiting their turn. Once people started dying many of those people waiting got in... while many that died went back in the que to wait their turn.

Also, many people don't really understand what 13% Tidi means, and think that they were lagging out when their computer didn't respond to their commands immediately. Smile


Standing in line to pew? What kind of blasphemy is that?

Only in high sec....

People stand in line in EvE to go shopping, what's so surprising about standing in line to fight? Smile



Standing in line to not fight is not the same as standing in line and actually getting a chance to be involved.....

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Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#27 - 2013-03-22 20:12:29 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Still a bigger fight than any other MMO can pull offBlink



I don't know about that.

I've seen some pretty big Southshore vs Tarren Mill battles....

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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#28 - 2013-03-22 20:13:12 UTC
Abuse of CCP is prohibited? Shocked

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#29 - 2013-03-22 20:13:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
I have been avoiding this whole thing in it's entirety by hunkering down with a bag of chips and a game of "Don't starve" but let me see if I get this straight.


They invited the whole community to a massive pvp event and then the whole thing toppled because too many people showed up. Despite them hosting the event and being ready for a player spike way in advance?

No, not really.

There was a system cap of 1600 people, so there was a considerable group at the entrance gates waiting their turn. Once people started dying many of those people waiting got in... while many that died went back in the que to wait their turn.

Also, many people don't really understand what 13% Tidi means, and think that they were lagging out when their computer didn't respond to their commands immediately. Smile


Standing in line to pew? What kind of blasphemy is that?

Only in high sec....

People stand in line in EvE to go shopping, what's so surprising about standing in line to fight? Smile



Standing in line to not fight is not the same as standing in line and actually getting a chance to be involved.....

I was at work during the EvE portion of the event and had zero chance of doing either one. Perhaps I too should start a whine thread.

Edit: I was able to watch the live stream however, which was a nice touch.

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Alara IonStorm
#30 - 2013-03-22 20:14:45 UTC
Alli Ginthur wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Very easy solution. Next time hold the event 1 jump into null sec, that will eliminate 95% of high sec participation in a snap, thus no lag.

Better yet, hold it in a wormhole, eliminate 95% more of the playerbase, not just the hi-seccers Blink

Better yet hold it in Jove Space the Player Base are a bunch of dicks.
Athena Maldoran
Doomheim
#31 - 2013-03-22 20:15:42 UTC
Maybe they hired some new people..
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#32 - 2013-03-22 20:18:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
baltec1 wrote:
Still a bigger fight than any other MMO can pull offBlink


That's true. Wether those fights serve better to please the 1,000 who get in or anger the 10,000 left out, that woould be another question... Bear
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#33 - 2013-03-22 20:18:54 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Abuse of CCP is prohibited? Shocked


Abuse yes, constructive criticism no.

You know that, you ride that fine line between the two all the time. Smile

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#34 - 2013-03-22 20:20:23 UTC
Alli Ginthur wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Very easy solution. Next time hold the event 1 jump into null sec, that will eliminate 95% of high sec participation in a snap, thus no lag.


Better yet, hold it in a wormhole, eliminate 95% more of the playerbase, not just the hi-seccers Blink
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KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#35 - 2013-03-22 20:20:30 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Abuse of CCP is prohibited? Shocked



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Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-03-22 20:22:49 UTC
I also think U2 should stop holding concerts until they can build a stadium to accomodate their millions of fans.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#37 - 2013-03-22 20:54:38 UTC
Takseen wrote:
I also think U2 should stop holding concerts until they can build a stadium to accomodate their millions of fans.


U2 Sells tickets. Once they are gone you are told well before the concert - SOLD OUT! They know better to have thousands of fans banging on the gates trying to get in, hoping that some fan will pass out and be hauled off on a stretcher. There would be riots (hmm there's a thought).

CCP should hold a drawing for live event tickets, and just like in RL, players should be allowed to scalp them. Taxes on that sale would be another needed isk sink.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#38 - 2013-03-22 21:03:07 UTC
KIller Wabbit wrote:
Takseen wrote:
I also think U2 should stop holding concerts until they can build a stadium to accomodate their millions of fans.


U2 Sells tickets. Once they are gone you are told well before the concert - SOLD OUT! They know better to have thousands of fans banging on the gates trying to get in, hoping that some fan will pass out and be hauled off on a stretcher. There would be riots (hmm there's a thought).

CCP should hold a drawing for live event tickets, and just like in RL, players should be allowed to scalp them. Taxes on that sale would be another needed isk sink.





That's sweet, paying again to play the game you already paid to play... Smile
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#39 - 2013-03-22 21:17:19 UTC
KIller Wabbit wrote:
Takseen wrote:
I also think U2 should stop holding concerts until they can build a stadium to accomodate their millions of fans.


U2 Sells tickets. Once they are gone you are told well before the concert - SOLD OUT! They know better to have thousands of fans banging on the gates trying to get in, hoping that some fan will pass out and be hauled off on a stretcher. There would be riots (hmm there's a thought).

CCP should hold a drawing for live event tickets, and just like in RL, players should be allowed to scalp them. Taxes on that sale would be another needed isk sink.








Hmmmm


So if there were previous live events, and players who managed to do certain things on those live events leading up to this onel, and those actions could have been what let them participate, it would certainly even things out.

Unfortunately as logical as that might seem, it's unfair to people who have to work to pay their own bills. One of the things that make this game great is that it's not specifically advantageous to "he who has no life". The basement dweller who can be front and center at all times can have mommy revoke his internet in two seconds, and is not a stable player base as those who pay their own bills and generally stay on for the occasional live event.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#40 - 2013-03-22 21:26:48 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
KIller Wabbit wrote:
Takseen wrote:
I also think U2 should stop holding concerts until they can build a stadium to accomodate their millions of fans.


U2 Sells tickets. Once they are gone you are told well before the concert - SOLD OUT! They know better to have thousands of fans banging on the gates trying to get in, hoping that some fan will pass out and be hauled off on a stretcher. There would be riots (hmm there's a thought).

CCP should hold a drawing for live event tickets, and just like in RL, players should be allowed to scalp them. Taxes on that sale would be another needed isk sink.





That's sweet, paying again to play the game you already paid to play... Smile


Since EVE is totally incapable of supporting the numbers of people in a single system that apparently wanted to actually be in system today there has to be a way to sort out the most passionate about being there from the hundreds of gawkers/chaff. (Yes, those hundreds of newbie ships in system really put the DPS where it was needed).

You sign up for the drawing and If you win pay nothing more. Paying scalping fees takes the load off CCP to do the sorting.

A very slight mod to the contract system to apply taxes would be the only thing needed to implement the scalping side. A mail based entry system would do the work on the drawing entry side.

** On the other hand, if CCP actually put on live events more often that once in a blue moon there wouldn't be a cattle rush to get into the few that are held. CCP Rising, I believe, said in the stream that live events are held weekly. Really? Since when?