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DroneKing Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-03-21 15:47:20 UTC
If you had to list which races are more imbalanced than others whether based on overpowered weapons, ships, ewar or whatever. What would you consider the most imbalanced races for PVP?

My vote for Minmatar.

Not sure if it's just the ship speed or what not but there are more Minmatar ships on our Doctrine than any other race.

DroneKing
SaccharIS
Dammalin Industries Incorporated
#2 - 2013-03-21 15:56:30 UTC
This pretty much comes down to your style of playing. Some Minmatar ships do perform better in some areas due to speed advantage but then again there are fights where the speed wont do you any good and Amarr ships start shining with their armor buffer (BS/Cap fights). Minmatar did have an advantage over other races once but not so much after the tiericide changes (looks at Hurricane).
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#3 - 2013-03-21 16:08:00 UTC
the race which has the loki OGB in fleet

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Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#4 - 2013-03-21 16:24:43 UTC
QFT

Bienator II wrote:
the race which has the loki OGB in fleet

nom nom
JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
The Chicken Coop
#5 - 2013-03-21 16:42:20 UTC
The Drake used to have excellent damage projection, excellent mobility, and excellent defense (only slightly less so, now). ECM is arguably the most debilitating form of EWAR. Hookbills are very stout, when fit in one of 3 ways. Caracals have superb damage projection (now in all four flavors) and great speed. HAM, HM, and RML Caracals are all viable options.

On the flip side, Gallente ships have fantastic DPS, though it's very difficult to dictate range. Their defensive bonuses are good for solo work, but repping bonuses don't scale at all in larger fleets. Sensor Damps are only moderately useful when fitted to bonused hulls. Drones are another can of worms entirely.

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Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-03-21 20:11:23 UTC
Each race has their "good" ships.

For example:

Caldari have tengu.

Minmatar have sleipnir.

Amarr have zealot.

Gallente have Incursus...

etc
Danny John-Peter
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#7 - 2013-03-21 21:08:16 UTC
DroneKing Aideron wrote:
If you had to list which races are more imbalanced than others whether based on overpowered weapons, ships, ewar or whatever. What would you consider the most imbalanced races for PVP?

My vote for Minmatar.

Not sure if it's just the ship speed or what not but there are more Minmatar ships on our Doctrine than any other race.


I used to be like you, then I discovered Scorch.
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#8 - 2013-03-22 02:00:13 UTC
Every rock has it's paper. Nothing is "imba". Everything is permitted. (sorry, wrong game)

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#9 - 2013-03-22 04:13:03 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Every rock has it's paper. Nothing is "imba". Everything is permitted. (sorry, wrong game)

some ships have fewer counters than others.

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Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#10 - 2013-03-22 07:16:18 UTC
Caldari is Master Race
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#11 - 2013-03-22 08:17:00 UTC
I am not flying much from minmatar anymore.

For the solo stuff I do amarr is clearly in last place. They have no ships that I fly. I used to fly the coercer but after it lost a low slot I am not really interested. Midslots are really important for solo stuff.

I think caldari is actully the best right now for me. Kestrel, corax, and harpy are all ships that I like to fly so I can fight a variety of ships. Hookbill and hawk are also good but I don't get many fights with them. The merlin is good too. Gallente are decent as well with the tristan, incursus, and algos. The dps makes them fun ships to fly.

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Destru Kaneda
Arzad Police Department
#12 - 2013-03-22 09:28:43 UTC
If I could only fly one race right now it sure as **** wouldn't be Minmatar. Perhaps your doctrines are outdated?

The best in class trifecta (Rifter, Rupture, Hurricane) have all been demoted. Not saying they're bad, but balance has definitely fixed the Winmatar problem.

TL;DR Make some Caldari doctrines.

I like it best when the beats are naked.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#13 - 2013-03-22 12:55:09 UTC
Jove. and STFU.

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Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#14 - 2013-03-22 13:34:58 UTC
Whatever I happen to by flying, because I am pro.

A weapon is only as good as the mustachio'd badass who wields it, right?
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#15 - 2013-03-22 16:09:55 UTC
The range on light missiles is ridiculous. My little Kestrel sends 781 Alpha and 143 DPS out over 60km. Try putting artillery on a Rifter or 150mm Rails on an Incursus. You'll be lucky to push 37km range and 100 DPS with horrible tracking. For the record I fly close to damn near everything in the frigate arena.
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#16 - 2013-03-22 19:29:31 UTC
Destru Kaneda wrote:
If I could only fly one race right now it sure as **** wouldn't be Minmatar. Perhaps your doctrines are outdated?

The best in class trifecta (Rifter, Rupture, Hurricane) have all been demoted. Not saying they're bad, but balance has definitely fixed the Winmatar problem.

TL;DR Make some Caldari doctrines.


Ruptures and Tornados are still godlike, bro.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.