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Should Ganking be profitable?

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Caldari Citizen 1897289768188
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#341 - 2013-03-22 18:04:05 UTC
Tippia wrote:
[quote=Caldari Citizen 1897289768188]No my phiosphy is at odds with yours not EVE.
…except that EVE is specifically designed to be and do the exact opposite of what you want.

[quote]

Doesnt seem to be to me. That your opinion.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#342 - 2013-03-22 18:04:21 UTC
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:



No I think I am seeing correct.


CCP doesn't agree with you.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#343 - 2013-03-22 18:08:38 UTC
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
Doesnt seem to be to me. That your opinion.
Nope. It's a matter of recorded history and of game design.

By the way, why shouldn't you be able to rob people of their valuables for profit?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#344 - 2013-03-22 18:23:57 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
Doesnt seem to be to me. That your opinion.
Nope. It's a matter of recorded history and of game design.

By the way, why shouldn't you be able to rob people of their valuables for profit?


OP appears to have selective reading and singlemindedness trained to V. You'll never get that question answered, because it doesn't exist as far as the OP is concerned.

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Caldari Citizen 1897289768188
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#345 - 2013-03-22 18:32:34 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:



No I think I am seeing correct.


CCP doesn't agree with you.


See thats were you are wrong. The changes brought about for the barges prove this. As well as Dev Soundwaves quote refference to those changes.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#346 - 2013-03-22 18:34:26 UTC
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
See thats were you are wrong. The changes brought about for the barges prove this.
Nope, as has been explained to you on multiple occasions. In fact, it does nothing remotely the same as what you're suggesting.

Quote:
As well as Dev Soundwaves quote refference to those changes.
Nope, as has been explained to you on multiple occasions. In fact, it means nothing even remotely related to what you're saying.

By the way, why shouldn't you be able to rob people of their valuables for profit?
Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#347 - 2013-03-22 18:41:27 UTC
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
No my phiosphy is at odds with yours not EVE.
…except that EVE is specifically designed to be and do the exact opposite of what you want.



Doesnt seem to be to me. That your opinion.

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Gank Knight
Nihilism.
#348 - 2013-03-22 18:46:29 UTC
Ganking T2 fit retreivers is mildly profitable if you have three accounts. Two gankers and one scout allows you to gank up to eight times an hour, although seven is a more reasonable number. With an average loot drop of 3 - 3.5 mil per ship, plus your own ship's drop that comes out to 21 - 24 million per hour. When you factor in the odd hulk here or there the practice starts approaching the same ISK/hr as running lvl 4s albeit with two more accounts.

Ganking miners also has the added entertainment factor which at times is priceless.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#349 - 2013-03-22 18:47:04 UTC
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
See thats were you are wrong. The changes brought about for the barges prove this. As well as Dev Soundwaves quote refference to those changes.


oh you mean that quote that you took out of context, have been told you took out of context, and have been shown evidence that he was referring specifically to ganking exhumers specifically for their salvage?

that quote?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#350 - 2013-03-22 19:08:10 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:



No I think I am seeing correct.


CCP doesn't agree with you.


See thats were you are wrong. The changes brought about for the barges prove this. As well as Dev Soundwaves quote refference to those changes.


Prove what?

We are still ganking them for profit and that quote is about a single line of ship hulls that he thinks should not be profitable to gank when they have nothing at all fitted.

You have no argument.
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188
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#351 - 2013-03-22 19:09:07 UTC
Didnt take any thing out of context... He refered to barges just as i have he said ganking those shouldnot be profit. Changes were made I agree with those changes. Then I asked if ganking should yield a profit and you girls have had your panties in a bind ever since.

Dont like the barge changes to bad tell it to CCP. Sounwaves quote was very specific. Changes were made a I see more coming.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#352 - 2013-03-22 19:19:48 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
Didnt take any thing out of context... He refered to barges just as i have he said ganking those shouldnot be profit. Changes were made I agree with those changes. Then I asked if ganking should yield a profit and you girls have had your panties in a bind ever since.

Dont like the barge changes to bad tell it to CCP. Sounwaves quote was very specific. Changes were made a I see more coming.


The problem we have with barges is a balance issue between the barges. Mainly with the Mack rendering the skiff pointless. You swing and miss again.
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188
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#353 - 2013-03-22 19:25:35 UTC
Riiiiiight if you say so. You guys crack me up
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#354 - 2013-03-22 19:31:12 UTC
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
Riiiiiight if you say so. You guys crack me up


Run the numbers yourself. The base tank of a mack renders the skiff pointless, the barge teircide has failed in its goal.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#355 - 2013-03-22 19:32:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
Dev soundwave wrote.

"Yeah my point is that I don't think they should be profitable to gank. I think it should be possible, but not necessarily profitable (profitable might be the wrong word, but more that the expenses should be higher for the attacker than the defender)."

What is everyones opinion?

Your OP made no mention of mining vessels, in fact you went out of your way to avoid mentioning mining vessels in your OP.

Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
Didnt take any thing out of context... He refered to barges just as i have he said ganking those shouldnot be profit. Changes were made I agree with those changes. Then I asked if ganking should yield a profit and you girls have had your panties in a bind ever since.

Dont like the barge changes to bad tell it to CCP. Sounwaves quote was very specific. Changes were made a I see more coming.

Slight change of tune, now you're mentioning mining vessels, but only after repeatedly being told that you took the original quote out of context. On the subject at hand, if a ship is fitted then there is a chance that modules will drop thus there is a chance of profit, albeit a profit that is entirely down to the loot fairy. If a ship is unfitted then all you're left with is salvage, which, unless it's T2 salvage such as intact armor plates, is pretty worthless for the most part, thus unprofitable.

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Mallak Azaria
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#356 - 2013-03-22 19:37:07 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:



No I think I am seeing correct.


CCP doesn't agree with you.


See thats were you are wrong. The changes brought about for the barges prove this. As well as Dev Soundwaves quote refference to those changes.


Prove what?

We are still ganking them for profit and that quote is about a single line of ship hulls that he thinks should not be profitable to gank when they have nothing at all fitted.

You have no argument.


To put it simply (for the OP), they shouldn't have been profitable to gank at the base level. As above, this related to a completely unfit ship.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#357 - 2013-03-22 19:41:57 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:

To put it simply (for the OP), they shouldn't have been profitable to gank at the base level. As above, this related to a completely unfit ship.


You might want to write that in 300 feet tall flashing pink neon letters that are visible from outer space, because that's the only way some people will take any notice.

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Caldari Citizen 1897289768188
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#358 - 2013-03-22 19:42:45 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
See thats were you are wrong. The changes brought about for the barges prove this.
Nope, as has been explained to you on multiple occasions. In fact, it does nothing remotely the same as what you're suggesting.

Quote:
As well as Dev Soundwaves quote refference to those changes.
Nope, as has been explained to you on multiple occasions. In fact, it means nothing even remotely related to what you're saying.

By the way, why shouldn't you be able to rob people of their valuables for profit?



Tippia saying nope wont change the facts. His quote was spot on reff. the barge changes and they made that change. I am sorry you cant see that or im certain in your case refuse to acknowledge it.

Either way I have stated my opinion and provided reasons for those opinions. I am done with your petty arguing and attempts to drag the topic to where it is now.

Should you have any further questions pleas visit the previous pages.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#359 - 2013-03-22 19:43:12 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:

To put it simply (for the OP), they shouldn't have been profitable to gank at the base level. As above, this related to a completely unfit ship.


You might want to write that in 300 feet tall flashing pink neon letters that are visible from outer space, because that's the only way some people will take any notice.


Not even then.....
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#360 - 2013-03-22 19:45:54 UTC
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:
Tippia saying nope wont change the facts. His quote was spot on reff. the barge changes and they made that change. I am sorry you cant see that or im certain in your case refuse to acknowledge it.

Either way I have stated my opinion and provided reasons for those opinions. I am done with your petty arguing and attempts to drag the topic to where it is now.

Should you have any further questions pleas visit the previous pages.


Of course just ignore the clear facts that have been presented to you over the entire thread, bury your head in the sand & yell "LALALALALA I'm not listening to you LALALALALA".

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