Intergalactic Summit

In my opinion, a LARGE part of the Gallente/Caldari hatred was started because the Caldari felt like the Gallente were treating them like children. The Federation needs to recognize that they are not looking at a beaten people. We are a sovereign nation. Restriction on arms, declaring yourselves awesome because you have 'given free passage' is extremely condescending.

I think the Gallente should return to Gallente Prime, though. I think while the uprooting might be a little rough, it would calm things down for Caldari to not be forced to take hostages to hold onto their homeworld.

When did I say about anything being awesome and patting ourselves on the back? It's called fixing a mistake. Stop trying to find insults where there are none. You're being argumentative for the sake of arguing.

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The region of Essense and system of Luminarie was not colonized by us, therefore we have no more claim them than the Federation did our colonies before the Great War. Caldari Prime should be our only interest in the area in terms of sovereign claim. To reach for more than Home would disenfranchise our moral right.



I would disagree strongly with this statement. The shear number of Provists and lack of anyone else in positions of power and influence among the CPD strongly contradict such a notion. Until we see Liberal, Practical and Patriots all alike rising to the top along side these Provists then I can not in good faith allow such claims go unchallenged.

No, you're just being hostile for hostility sake. Why wouldn't it make sense to NOT want a giant ivnasion fleet in the same solar system even with a trety? Seriously?



So the death, destruction, and tossing out of Caldari tradition was worth it?

To answer your first inquiry: Yes. There are only two options that would make sense in your line of reasoning:
A) We turn Luminaire into some sort of Demilitarized Zone, which is a farce, as we know that both sides will have extremely large Navies just outside of the system, ready to act on a moment's notice.
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B) We both dial down our Navies, making the both of us vulnerable to outsiders once the political winds shift.

Mutually Assured Destruction combined with treaty and a standard operating procedure are the healthiest options for both nations to remain strong but vigilante. Who knows? In the future, we may end up fighting WITH each other?

To answer the second question, what tradition are we throwing out? Meritocracy? Military readiness?

As a Citizen of the State, I feel Tibus Heth is only destroying our way of life.
It is admirable that he retook our world from Gallente conquerers, and for that he has my thanks, but he is still a monster. While I hate to side with the Federation on any issue, it can't be denied that Heth has been fully prepared to fire upon civilian targets. Regardless of what nation they belong to or their ethnicities, this is unacceptable. Furthermore, he is a member of the Templis Dragonaurs: a terrorist organization which was an enemy of the state before he took power.

He also seeks to control the megacorporations and by extension, the Caldari people, and he is fully prepared to do it through death and fear. Not only are his methods wrong, his objectives are improper. The corporations are the ones who are supposed to be in charge. Heth (or preferably somone who isn't a monster) should serve the corporations and the people, ot the other way around. THAT is the Caldari way that Heth has destroyed.

Heth is destroying our way of life for a vendetta, and it is up to the Caldari people to remove him from power so that calmer heads can prevale.

It really doesn't matter, was he in the mentioned organization or wasn't. It really doesn't matter, violent this organization or not. What does matter, is what you are talking about the Head of the State.

Attacking Heth now means attacking the whole State.
Only CPD has authority to question him as the Executor, and only CEP has authority to question him as a fellow megacorp CEO.
Everyone else who are trying to do it, should be treated as mutineers and dealt with accordingly.

Every Caldari was happy when Caldari Prime was returned to us. And indeed, there were a lot of things that were not working as they should in the State. That is the reason that not many voices against Tibus Heth were heard. And of course, most, if not all of the citizens of the State were in awe of him over the return of Caldari Prime.

However, the so-called "New Meritocracy" is not what it would have people believe. Nepotism and corruption have not been eradicated, they've merely changed form, with Provist card-approved lackeys been placed in every post of importance and influence, with no other criteria that their loyalty to the Executor.

Obviously, things are not working as they should currently. The ruthless suppression of any protests from the CPD is telling as well.

As for foreign policy, the Executor is certainly neither diplomat, nor statesman. And that would have been perfectly fine, should he had recognized the need for diplomacy, negotiation, and a foreign policy based on what would be efficient and good for the State. Instead, his rather narrow political ideology has brought us now to the current situation.

The CEP is certainly not proof to failure and mismanagement. But the main policy of the CEP, regardless of era, was pragmatic, with an eye over efficiency and success, unimpeded by the "morals" of the CPD. And the fact that there are several, highly competent CEO's taking counsel and decisions together, makes for a much better decision making system, and one the State really needs at this point.

Hopefully, that will happen sooner rather than later.

A strong domestic policy and a foolish foreign policy... New Eden has seen it's share of leaders who fit this description before, and no doubt we shall see more in the future. Mr.Heth is only mortal, but his kind are eternal.