EVE General Discussion

Sure it should, but it cannot, because it is how most players start in EVE. You then do not teach them the necessary skills with what you do. What you do is like punching someone in the nose and expecting he now knows Jujitsu.

The rules have numbers and their numbers somewhat represent their birth time. Number 5 means it is pretty old. You should check the rules once in a while. It is quite amusing what they had to add as new rules. I might be discussion forum rules with you at this moment..., but all I am really saying is that I appreciate the effort.

I cant imagine how dumb you all are. Except whitehound.
16 pages in a trollthread and it only needed a small quote put out of context
and you morons keep going, because whitehound owns all of you.

This isnt a matter of perspective. He owns you guys.

I congratulate you for your ability to manipulate people, whitehound.

Look, Velicitia above you has replied in a satisfactory and effective way.
Your suggestions tend to provide vastly suboptimal solutions I am sorry. It was back at the barges times, it's now.

A simple "Black Frog" (I did not know they also do hi sec) reply was a good one.

Why do you think you should be able to move large volumes of expensive cargo in a manner that is fast, free, and safe?

I want freedom to choose my ships fittings in case you have not noticed yet.
EvE is an all round sandbox game, I should be able to decide if I want a slower, expensive, tanked solution or a riskier one or even a smuggler setup.
There's no "safe" in EvE, just degrees of compromise. I want to be able to compromise on the ship setup, not to have some artificial cap imposed on the ship, as "artificial" is as bad as the barges tank.




And I loved them. See, I am not the only one that begs to differ about other people's opinions




I indicated that there was effort behind. I *have been* logistics officers, have you been that?
The average "Joe the alliance grunt" though will never notice that, they just have an happy life.




Unsurprisingly, the low sec systems next to trade hubs tend to be inhabitated by ill intentioned guys.
I am not going to waste a 7B ship + 10B cargo because at peak hour the server coughed, black screened of death or whatever.
I had super extensive experience about how bad low sec servers can behave




I am already doing that. 4 freighters carrying 50k m3 each out of 900k, talk about a waste of multiboxing.

About the EHP, people can sacrifice their tank to fit cargo expanders and triple+ their payload, why isn't there a "bulkheads plus" mod to create a slow, smaller cargo brick?

After all there are battleships that can be bought for super brick fitting, why not also implement a logistics choice as well.

No what I am saying that as goons find more ways to exploit game mechanics that changes need to be made to counter your exploits. Thats what I am saying sorry its not what you would like or want me to say.

Moving forward plesase dont be presumptuous and try to speak for me. I am certain the only thing we share are the same planet.

Apparently calling a troll a troll in a troll thread constitutes a personal attack, so instead people entertain themselves.

vOv

This is simple to explain.

EVE is not a PvP game. It's an MMORG with both PvE and PvP elements and nothing much compels you to do either.

the moons has run dry?

Number of moons * 100 * 24 per day isn't endless

No one is asking for complete safety. In fact had you read the entire thread you would noticed I said gank all you want just remove the profit. Ganking should be for spite or revenge just as DEV Soundwave suggested not profit.

The problem exist because of what we have created in null. Null players are bored. Null is set up on a moon goo production to keep making ships and isk. Null pvp is blob warfare and Blackop cynos and Titan bridges. PVP in null requires effort planning and is far from safe as opposed to be able to run to hi-sec and gank some people who aren’t set up expecting or ready for pvp.

So yes changes need to continue to be implemented by CCP just like they did for mining barges to ensure no one group can exploit game mechanics.