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Goons threaten me at Uedama (Freighter)

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Telkom
Unlimited Mining Works
#41 - 2013-02-26 22:12:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Telkom
My big by still alive Big smile

Been days using this freighter, saves me hell lot of time transporting these ships to trade hub
Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#42 - 2013-02-27 17:00:38 UTC
stop calling it you big boy, you're turning me on
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#43 - 2013-02-27 21:07:17 UTC
Telkom wrote:
There's also other guy beside me riding a Propechy, asking he's going to help me by webbing it for insta warp, to do so he sent me a duel challenge so he dont get popped by concord. Since I never used and dont know this duel ****, I declined, and logged off asap before one of alt in ibis put aggro timer on me for 15 mins and I'll be a dead meat.

!


If you had accepted that duel your frieghter & possibly your pod would have become dead meat
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#44 - 2013-02-27 21:13:31 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Telkom wrote:
My freighter now trapped in here . Now what should I do?
Get someone help escorting/webbing my big boy. Pay her 50m or what? I don't have that much money atm. Help!!!!


Log in, warp out. They could easily have ganked you after you logged off .


Not if he used the safe log off
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Ch3244
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2013-02-28 11:25:02 UTC
Telkom wrote:
So I just bought a freighter,

Previously I've been carefully reading regarding how to safe fly a freighter, and keep those in minds, Suggestions such as these most important to avoid suicide ganking

- Never auto pilot
- Warp to 0 all the time
- Keep your cargo low
- aiueo etc

This suggestion is the most popular one
Quote:

Keep your cargo low, dont carry too many shinies, keep it under 200millions worth and it's fine!

Keep your cargo low, dont carry too many shinies, keep it under 200millions worth and it's fine!

Keep your cargo low, dont carry too many shinies, keep it under 200millions worth and it's fine!

BULLSHIT, here I dont even carry cargo worth 50m, (probably around 39m), and yet they want to suicide kill me.

And yes I've read all those thread about suicide ganking at Uedama by Goons, I have to pass this system or I have to take another route which takes me 45 Jump to my destination. I dont want to do 45 Jump with this snail freighter.

Then I arrived on stargate at Uedama. A girl approached me and she said she want to play with my big boy. She then shaked my big boy, bumping it preventing it from warping out. Extorts to pay her 50millions or her fleet will come and squash my big boy. Just the heck I don't have that much money, I just bought this thing for one and half billion. If she just let me pass to my destination and get my things then I might have that money.

There's also other guy beside me riding a Propechy, asking he's going to help me by webbing it for insta warp, to do so he sent me a duel challenge so he dont get popped by concord. Since I never used and dont know this duel ****, I declined, and logged off asap before one of alt in ibis put aggro timer on me for 15 mins and I'll be a dead meat.

I came back with my alt, and look around again, there's also another unfortunate guy getting his big boy shaked by her, a few secs later a group of brutix and talos (around 10 of them) appeared and surrounded him. All of them are goons
http://hfimage.net/images/u6j4a2j8u45qp19jer7p.jpg

Wew I'm amazed at this guy that has 5 alt accounts lol,

I dont really know what happened, that obelisk suddenly gone from the map and these brutix-talos warped out.

My freighter now trapped in here . Now what should I do?
Get someone help escorting/webbing my big boy. Pay her 50m or what? I don't have that much money atm. Help!!!!

Contact me in-game I can tell you how to get through.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#46 - 2013-02-28 23:46:23 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Telkom wrote:
My freighter now trapped in here . Now what should I do?
Get someone help escorting/webbing my big boy. Pay her 50m or what? I don't have that much money atm. Help!!!!


Log in, warp out. They could easily have ganked you after you logged off .


Not if he used the safe log off


True, but then they could have easily ganked (or got a logoff timer on) him before the safe logoff timer finished.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#47 - 2013-03-01 10:44:49 UTC
straw poll: do goons honor ransoms?

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"

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From Hisec with Love Holdings
From Hisec with Love Coalition
#48 - 2013-03-01 11:12:38 UTC
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
straw poll: do goons honor ransoms?


Of course they do.....what do you think P

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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Aracimia Wolfe
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2013-03-01 12:44:17 UTC
I need to buy myself a freighter just to get my big boy handled? Well this explains all the ganks....

Kill it with Fire!

E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#50 - 2013-03-01 15:01:47 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Telkom wrote:
So I just bought a freighter,

Previously I've been carefully reading regarding how to safe fly a freighter, and keep those in minds, Suggestions such as these most important to avoid suicide ganking

- Never auto pilot
- Warp to 0 all the time
- Keep your cargo low
- aiueo etc

This suggestion is the most popular one
Quote:

Keep your cargo low, dont carry too many shinies, keep it under 200millions worth and it's fine!

Keep your cargo low, dont carry too many shinies, keep it under 200millions worth and it's fine!

Keep your cargo low, dont carry too many shinies, keep it under 200millions worth and it's fine!

BULLSHIT, here I dont even carry cargo worth 50m, (probably around 39m), and yet they want to suicide kill me.

And yes I've read all those thread about suicide ganking at Uedama by Goons, I have to pass this system or I have to take another route which takes me 45 Jump to my destination. I dont want to do 45 Jump with this snail freighter.

Then I arrived on stargate at Uedama. A girl approached me and she said she want to play with my big boy. She then shaked my big boy, bumping it preventing it from warping out. Extorts to pay her 50millions or her fleet will come and squash my big boy. Just the heck I don't have that much money, I just bought this thing for one and half billion. If she just let me pass to my destination and get my things then I might have that money.

There's also other guy beside me riding a Propechy, asking he's going to help me by webbing it for insta warp, to do so he sent me a duel challenge so he dont get popped by concord. Since I never used and dont know this duel ****, I declined, and logged off asap before one of alt in ibis put aggro timer on me for 15 mins and I'll be a dead meat.

I came back with my alt, and look around again, there's also another unfortunate guy getting his big boy shaked by her, a few secs later a group of brutix and talos (around 10 of them) appeared and surrounded him. All of them are goons
http://hfimage.net/images/u6j4a2j8u45qp19jer7p.jpg

Wew I'm amazed at this guy that has 5 alt accounts lol,

I dont really know what happened, that obelisk suddenly gone from the map and these brutix-talos warped out.

My freighter now trapped in here . Now what should I do?
Get someone help escorting/webbing my big boy. Pay her 50m or what? I don't have that much money atm. Help!!!!


First of all I would like to offer you my sincerest apologies for what has happened to you, it saddens me that our members will stoop so low. I would like to take this opportunity to offer you an immunity pass. This pass will have you set to positive standings, which will allow you to travel through highsec unmolested. We usually charge 1 billion isk for such a pass, but as you seem like a good person, I am offering you a pass for half of that. This pass will also be valid for your entire EVE career as opposed to the 12 month pass we generally issue. I look forward to hearing from you.



Should you decide to take this offer please contact me in RL. I have a great investment opportunity for a little bridge in Brooklyn that you can collect tolls (or in case of eve TROLLS) and make your money back in no time. Believable?? I didn’t think so.

You hear a lot about rule number 1 don’t fly what you can’t blaaah blaaah. The number 1 rule in eve should always be first and foremost NEVER EVER trust a goon. NEVER

There are two ways to tell if a goon is lying. One…. their lips are moving and you hear them on comms. Two….. you see that they have typed something in written form.

Congrats on being hesitant to accept a duel. This allows them to kill you without getting killed by concord. The mechanic they reference is accurate but have someone you trust doing it.


I hope you are able to make it thru if your still alive. Good luck.
Telkom
Unlimited Mining Works
#51 - 2013-03-01 16:02:09 UTC
Telkom wrote:
My big by still alive Big smile

Been days using this freighter, saves me hell lot of time transporting these ships to trade hub

Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
#52 - 2013-03-01 16:18:59 UTC
And I go looking for people doing such things as this and I never see it.

Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought.

flakeys
Doomheim
#53 - 2013-03-02 10:51:44 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
First off, stop calling it your big boy. Unless you plan on telling us where they touched your big boy.

Ignore them. Get an in corp friend to web you.

Honestly I've autopilot end my freighter through there many times over the last year and never even had an issue.



That , got ''randsomed '' 4 times now and told them to stop being little girls and just blow my ship up allready.

None of the times did i get a shot fired on me , at most scrambled for a short time.

Don't carry anything over 1.5 B in your cargohold and allways be prepared to loose your ship.If they convo you and ask for money tell them to stfu and shove it where the sun don't shine.Worst case they'll kill you but that would also happen if you pay them any amount of isk so might as well ''share your feelings'' before you get blown up.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

admiral root
Red Galaxy
#54 - 2013-03-02 14:50:07 UTC
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
straw poll: do goons honor ransoms?


Goons are some of the most honourable space people I've ever met.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Powers Sa
#55 - 2013-03-22 04:40:47 UTC
Zedrik Cayne wrote:


Easiest thing you can do is skill up. Most freighter alts have bad navigation skills making thjeir freighters exceptionally slow on the helm. Skill yourself up and it will make it harder for them to keep you bumped.

Also, do not forget your hull tanking, shield tanking and armor tanking skills. And skill hardwires for even more buffer. So if it does come to gank time, it is more difficult and expensive for the gankers.

If they want to pop you in a freighter they can. But you don't have to make it easy.

What like you just did? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16899022

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#56 - 2013-03-22 05:07:13 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
Zedrik Cayne wrote:
If they want to pop you in a freighter they can. But you don't have to make it easy.
What like you just did? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16899022


Don't you see the extra Catalyst you guys had to use?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#57 - 2013-03-22 13:07:19 UTC
Telkom wrote:
So I just bought a freighter,

Previously I've been carefully reading regarding how to safe fly a freighter, and keep those in minds, Suggestions such as these most important to avoid suicide ganking

- Never auto pilot
- Warp to 0 all the time
- Keep your cargo low
- aiueo etc

This suggestion is the most popular one
Quote:

Keep your cargo low, dont carry too many shinies, keep it under 200millions worth and it's fine!

Keep your cargo low, dont carry too many shinies, keep it under 200millions worth and it's fine!

Keep your cargo low, dont carry too many shinies, keep it under 200millions worth and it's fine!

BULLSHIT, here I dont even carry cargo worth 50m, (probably around 39m), and yet they want to suicide kill me.

And yes I've read all those thread about suicide ganking at Uedama by Goons, I have to pass this system or I have to take another route which takes me 45 Jump to my destination. I dont want to do 45 Jump with this snail freighter.

Then I arrived on stargate at Uedama. A girl approached me and she said she want to play with my big boy. She then shaked my big boy, bumping it preventing it from warping out. Extorts to pay her 50millions or her fleet will come and squash my big boy. Just the heck I don't have that much money, I just bought this thing for one and half billion. If she just let me pass to my destination and get my things then I might have that money.

There's also other guy beside me riding a Propechy, asking he's going to help me by webbing it for insta warp, to do so he sent me a duel challenge so he dont get popped by concord. Since I never used and dont know this duel ****, I declined, and logged off asap before one of alt in ibis put aggro timer on me for 15 mins and I'll be a dead meat.

I came back with my alt, and look around again, there's also another unfortunate guy getting his big boy shaked by her, a few secs later a group of brutix and talos (around 10 of them) appeared and surrounded him. All of them are goons
http://hfimage.net/images/u6j4a2j8u45qp19jer7p.jpg

Wew I'm amazed at this guy that has 5 alt accounts lol,

I dont really know what happened, that obelisk suddenly gone from the map and these brutix-talos warped out.

My freighter now trapped in here . Now what should I do?
Get someone help escorting/webbing my big boy. Pay her 50m or what? I don't have that much money atm. Help!!!!


You should pay them the ransom. Don't lie and say you can't afford 50m while flying around in stuff that has a total worth of like a billion
Wolfgan Boisvert
Placid Reborn
#58 - 2013-03-22 13:38:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Wolfgan Boisvert
A while ago it was petitionable for harrassment if you got bumped repeatedly in a big ship as it constitutes griefing. I believe the logic was that you cannot do anything against it except paying, and that just opens you up for the next bumper "totally unrelated to the first one".

Policy might have changed, but it cannot hurt to try.

Besides, good choice on not accepting the duel.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2013-03-22 14:02:30 UTC
Telkom wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Telkom wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:

The fact that you shed some tears here will only motivate them more to gank you for more.

NEVER FLY A SHIP YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE. If you don't even have 50 mill on hand after buying a freighter, you are doing something wrong.

What I'm looking for is not another preach, I need solutions on what should I do now.

I know there's something wrong with me, But I'm getting tired transporting these things with Mammoth that takes dozen rounds. I have more than 50m, but that's not in the shape of ISK, awaiting to be sold.


If they didn't blow-up your ship after you logged off, it should of warped away at the end of the log-off timer. Log back in when you think they are not there to prey on you again and fly your freighter away.


Is it better to pay them off given if you have the money?


You seem like a reasonable person I could be persuaded to help you get through the system for a price.

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Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2013-03-22 14:13:27 UTC
Wolfgan Boisvert wrote:
A while ago it was petitionable for harrassment if you got bumped repeatedly in a big ship as it constitutes griefing. I believe the logic was that you cannot do anything against it except paying, and that just opens you up for the next bumper "totally unrelated to the first one".

Policy might have changed, but it cannot hurt to try.

Besides, good choice on not accepting the duel.



It never was, unless it's someone just bumping for a long period of time for literally no reason. Killing ships has been an exception to this rule for probably around 10 years.


Get out.