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Watershed moment? The Apostle shrugged
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Handsome Hussein
#21 - 2011-10-29 22:45:31 UTC
The Apostle wrote:
Handsome ******* wrote:
Psychophantic wrote:
Gawd, two attention seeking drama queens combining forces.

All we need now is Poetic to show up and make it a trifecta.

God save us!

lol. He was talking about Helicity and Mittens. Do you guys ever READ the threads before posting?

Even if he was, how is my statement any less true?

The Apostle wrote:
Hope you guys are better at PvP, you seem to shoot first and target later.

Not gonna lie, I'm pretty ******* terrible.

Leaves only the fresh scent of pine.
Handsome Hussein
#22 - 2011-10-29 22:46:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Handsome Hussein
Roosterton wrote:
Helicity still plays?ShockedShockedShocked

Saw him in local a few nights ago talking smack.

Wait... I missed the joke, I think. Oops

Leaves only the fresh scent of pine.
Tallianna Avenkarde
Pyre of Gods
#23 - 2011-10-29 22:54:12 UTC
Helicity was unbanned August 30th, and resubbed last week.

And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell.
The Apostle
Doomheim
#24 - 2011-10-29 22:54:52 UTC
Handsome Hussein wrote:
The Apostle wrote:
Handsome ******* wrote:
Psychophantic wrote:
Gawd, two attention seeking drama queens combining forces.

All we need now is Poetic to show up and make it a trifecta.

God save us!

lol. He was talking about Helicity and Mittens. Do you guys ever READ the threads before posting?

Even if he was, how is my statement any less true?

The Apostle wrote:
Hope you guys are better at PvP, you seem to shoot first and target later.

Not gonna lie, I'm pretty ******* terrible.

Guffaw... Helicity, Mittens and POETIC for a trifecta.... Shocked

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2011-10-29 23:31:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Dont know dont care.

If changes happens than they happens....

problem is with innovation of destroyers, adding gang battlecruisers and other tweaks which will make even an dead person successfull in ganking fully officer tanked hulk with two destroyers worth 1mil there is no real alternative.. The end is innevitable, maybe just maybe once they broke the chains and once the drone region no longer have 80 percent of all ore / which is what gonna happen. Then people who actually want mine will get their place in null sec alliances and socialism way will become the reality.

You will mine, you will produce, you will get some reward but you would do it for us dear friend. If not than its gonna be great fun not flying anything since nobody mine, nobody produce because nobody have minerals and once you lose all your assets and ships you just un-sub since you no longer can do anything.

Or just scratch whole industry and science and make NPCs sell everything. hmm Shocked
okst666
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2011-10-29 23:35:53 UTC
XIRUSPHERE wrote:
Concord is there to blow up a ship after a criminal act, that's it, that's all it ever has been. They are by no means " protection ".


It would be cool if concord would act like real police would do...but with a chance.

they should patrol and follow suspects (negative secstatus for example...or killed people in the last 3 month) where ever they go with a chance of 33% ...target someone in highsec...concord targets you (80% chance) ..first shot on possible victim and you will be vaporized by concord.(100% chance)


[X] < Nail here for new monitor
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#27 - 2011-10-29 23:50:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
The Apostle wrote:
CCP will need to 1) make a clear and definitive stand supporting this type of activity (i.e. Do nothing) or 2) seek Concord AI buff or such game mechanic to reduce the impact on highsec players
…or 3) Actively encourage and support these events (as in: do more than nothing) since they generate content and have numerous positive effects on the game world.


Last I heard from Helicity, it was leaning more towards #3…
The Apostle
Doomheim
#28 - 2011-10-29 23:52:22 UTC
okst666 wrote:
XIRUSPHERE wrote:
Concord is there to blow up a ship after a criminal act, that's it, that's all it ever has been. They are by no means " protection ".


It would be cool if concord would act like real police would do...but with a chance.

they should patrol and follow suspects (negative secstatus for example...or killed people in the last 3 month) where ever they go with a chance of 33% ...target someone in highsec...concord targets you (80% chance) ..first shot on possible victim and you will be vaporized by concord.(100% chance)



To be like "real police" per se, the penalty needs to escalate per offense until it is impossible for a ganker to continue. Even a -10 can easily circumvent Concord.

If it went that way, It'll come down to recycling alts and as someone said, maybe you shouldn't be able to recycle an alt with a negative standing. That'll be something less for CCP to police as an added bonus.

If you make yourself a neg status, you pay the price. God forbid, a consequence for ganking!! Whatever will we think of next?

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2011-10-29 23:52:45 UTC
The Apostle wrote:
Quoth The Mittani
Quote:
We're now working with Helicity for a combined Goonswarm/Hulkageddon event which will make the last few Hulkageddons look like drops in the bucket.


To be or not to be...... protected by Concord. Will this create the catalyst?

Discuss...

Sounds like fun.

Poor part time macro miners / afk alt miners are obviously going to start whining again, but these kinds of events bring variety to the game and make people break their daily routines and try something else too... and if not - at least the mining will be much more exciting,

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The Apostle
Doomheim
#30 - 2011-10-29 23:56:34 UTC
Tippia wrote:
The Apostle wrote:
CCP will need to 1) make a clear and definitive stand supporting this type of activity (i.e. Do nothing) or 2) seek Concord AI buff or such game mechanic to reduce the impact on highsec players
…or 3) Actively encourage and support these events (as in: do more than nothing) since they generate content and have numerous positive effects on the game world.

Last I heard from Helicity, it was leaning more towards #3…

"Generate content", "Postive effects".... Lol. You TRULY believe that?

There are hundreds of ways for that to be done ingame, and I'm still not sure why you spend so much time singling out the one "event" that impacts the player least likely to defend themselves at the greatest cost.

You're a carebear missioner so why are you even involved in these topics?

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]
Tanya Fox
Doomheim
#31 - 2011-10-29 23:57:56 UTC
Psychophantic wrote:
The Apostle wrote:
Quoth The Mittani
Quote:
We're now working with Helicity for a combined Goonswarm/Hulkageddon event which will make the last few Hulkageddons look like drops in the bucket.



Gawd, two attention seeking drama queens combining forces.




+1
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2011-10-29 23:58:30 UTC
The Apostle wrote:
okst666 wrote:
XIRUSPHERE wrote:
Concord is there to blow up a ship after a criminal act, that's it, that's all it ever has been. They are by no means " protection ".


It would be cool if concord would act like real police would do...but with a chance.

they should patrol and follow suspects (negative secstatus for example...or killed people in the last 3 month) where ever they go with a chance of 33% ...target someone in highsec...concord targets you (80% chance) ..first shot on possible victim and you will be vaporized by concord.(100% chance)



To be like "real police" per se, the penalty needs to escalate per offense until it is impossible for a ganker to continue. Even a -10 can easily circumvent Concord.

If it went that way, It'll come down to recycling alts and as someone said, maybe you shouldn't be able to recycle an alt with a negative standing. That'll be something less for CCP to police as an added bonus.

If you make yourself a neg status, you pay the price. God forbid, a consequence for ganking!! Whatever will we think of next?

I liked you better when you were advocating for mission runners to be ganked along with the poor miners.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
The Apostle
Doomheim
#33 - 2011-10-30 00:01:58 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
The Apostle wrote:
Quoth The Mittani
Quote:
We're now working with Helicity for a combined Goonswarm/Hulkageddon event which will make the last few Hulkageddons look like drops in the bucket.


To be or not to be...... protected by Concord. Will this create the catalyst?

Discuss...

Sounds like fun.

Poor part time macro miners / afk alt miners are obviously going to start whining again, but these kinds of events bring variety to the game and make people break their daily routines and try something else too... and if not - at least the mining will be much more exciting,

I sorta agree that Hulkageddon brings variety. It was a 10 day event and the smart players just did something else in the interim.

But the ganking being suggested here is for all intents and purposes a little bit over the top. It's the bidding of one person with ramifications for both the game and for hundreds, if not thousands of players who will be victims.

And let's face it, even fun, if overdone, can become tiresome.

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]
The Apostle
Doomheim
#34 - 2011-10-30 00:04:00 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
The Apostle wrote:
okst666 wrote:
XIRUSPHERE wrote:
Concord is there to blow up a ship after a criminal act, that's it, that's all it ever has been. They are by no means " protection ".


It would be cool if concord would act like real police would do...but with a chance.

they should patrol and follow suspects (negative secstatus for example...or killed people in the last 3 month) where ever they go with a chance of 33% ...target someone in highsec...concord targets you (80% chance) ..first shot on possible victim and you will be vaporized by concord.(100% chance)



To be like "real police" per se, the penalty needs to escalate per offense until it is impossible for a ganker to continue. Even a -10 can easily circumvent Concord.

If it went that way, It'll come down to recycling alts and as someone said, maybe you shouldn't be able to recycle an alt with a negative standing. That'll be something less for CCP to police as an added bonus.

If you make yourself a neg status, you pay the price. God forbid, a consequence for ganking!! Whatever will we think of next?

I liked you better when you were advocating for mission runners to be ganked along with the poor miners.

I'm still advocating that. Believe me. If ganking is acceptable, let's make all the people who LIKE ganking ALSO become victims.

I say bring it.

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#35 - 2011-10-30 00:04:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
The Apostle wrote:
"Generate content", "Postive effects".... Lol. You TRULY believe that?
Why wouldn't I believe something that is true? It's exactly the kind of content that EVE was built to produce, and the kind of market and industry activity it generates is just a healthy shake-up.
Quote:
I'm still not sure why you spend so much time singling out the one "event" that impacts the player least likely to defend themselves at the greatest cost.
You're confusing me with you. You're the one who just can't let go of this topic, even though is such a complete non-issue, and has been so since roughly forever. If the players don't want to defend themselves in spite of (supposedly) great costs, then that's their problem.

Oh, and…
Quote:
Even a -10 can easily circumvent Concord.
Well, duh! The CONCORD mechanic has nothing to do with the consequences of negative sec status.
Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#36 - 2011-10-30 00:04:32 UTC
3 things


-Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.

-Concord only punishes, there are never any guarantees of safety in Eve (if eve had a cornerstone/keystone, this would be it)

-Tears are delicious. The more you shed the tastier it is.
XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
#37 - 2011-10-30 00:07:15 UTC
okst666 wrote:
XIRUSPHERE wrote:
Concord is there to blow up a ship after a criminal act, that's it, that's all it ever has been. They are by no means " protection ".


It would be cool if concord would act like real police would do...but with a chance.

they should patrol and follow suspects (negative secstatus for example...or killed people in the last 3 month) where ever they go with a chance of 33% ...target someone in highsec...concord targets you (80% chance) ..first shot on possible victim and you will be vaporized by concord.(100% chance)




As long as they act like real police and follow disproportionate amounts of matar pilots, take epic breaks around quafe dispensers eating donuts and are easily bribed. Big smile

The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.

One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear.
Tanya Fox
Doomheim
#38 - 2011-10-30 00:08:16 UTC
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:



-Tears are delicious. The more you shed the tastier it is.




Tears are getting boring, it's been done to death multiple times.

People even claim tears where there are none.
The Apostle
Doomheim
#39 - 2011-10-30 00:11:17 UTC
Tippia wrote:
If the players don't want to defend themselves in spite of (supposedly) great costs, then that's their problem.

So you're in favour that missioners should be allowed to be ganked. No Concord in mission space?

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#40 - 2011-10-30 00:13:53 UTC
The Apostle wrote:
So you're in favour that missioners should be allowed to be ganked. No Concord in mission space?
Non sequitur. Missioners are already allowed to be ganked.