Intergalactic Summit

Preface: Opinions expressed here are not representative of Advenus Classem or the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris. Advenus Classem and PIE do not comment on Caldari internal affairs and this statement may not be taken as a comment on Caldari internal affairs..

While the looming threat of war has eclipsed the talk of Caldari internal disputes, there is a question that I feel needs to be asked of those corporate leaders and capsuleers who have come out against Executor Heth and the Caldari Providence Directorate. That question is as follows: would a post-Heth State really be any better?

My first concern is what might happen to the so-called 'New Meritocracy'. The Executor's reforms have helped to root out nepotism and corruption. They have restored the idea of appointment based on merit. Spending on education has increased and the quality of education has improved through the use of advanced screening techniques. Workers, inventors and small business owners have all been given support that would previously have been available only to those with Megacorp connections. Economic growth in the State has been significant, and workers now get good pay for hard work, as well as annual leave and the possibility of an early retirement. If the Chief Executive Panel were to return to power, what would happen to these reforms?

Second is the question of Foreign Policy. While capsuleers have heavily critiqued the Executor's decisions, I do wonder what the CEP might do that's fundamentally different. Surely the Megacorps wouldn't hand Home back to the Federales? And surely the Megacorps would've come down just as hard on any uprising among the Gallente quartered inside their districts, after events of domestic terrorism?

Finally, there is the charge that the Executor and the Caldari Providence Directorate have used political suppression to remain in power. I ask: would this be any different if the Chief Executive Panel were in charge? Given the popularity of the Executor, there would almost certainly be riots in the event of a counter-coup. Would the CEP shock troops be more gentle with the unruly mobs? Or would they continue to rule the State in the same way that it's been ruled so far?

I am curious what the Anti-Provists think of this, because I honestly have a difficult time grasping the anti-Provist vision for the future.

I am not a Caldari citizen, however I am half Deteis and lived in the State (still kept my Fed citizenship) for a few years and saw the rise of Tibus Heth. I left the State shortly after the Malkalen Incident due to the massive spike in Anti-Gallente sentiment after the tragedy.

Because of this, I feel I can provide a few thoughts on Mr. Heth without the influence of Federation bias.



Tibus Heth certainly did help the State, at least at the beginning of his reign. However I don't feel that he has preserved the Meritocracy of the State. For one, he has certainly been a thorn in the side of laborers, which is rather surprising considering his own origins. Laborers of all kinds within the State are not getting the wages they deserve but most importantly, working conditions are downright awful. He has helped only a little bit with wages, and considering his response to the recent Kaalakoita protests, he doesn't appear to be very keen on the idea of improving working conditions further.

If the CEP were to return to power, I feel that some of his reforms would remain in place, especially those concerning education. However the meritocracy was a bit messed up. Citizens of the State are far too reliant on Heth's regime to get what they want and need. He also created a false sense of reality that everything is perfect now, which causes many people to remain in a sort of socioeconomic stasis where they cannot advance upward regardless of merit. Heth's power hungry nature has also made it virtually impossible for ordinary citizens to influence their government.



The CEP would certainly not hand Caldari Prime over to us. However, the CEP would be much better at maintaining (or at this point, restoring) peace. Heth's extremely hostile attitude towards the Federation is making it virtually impossible to negotiate anything, primarily the removal of the Titan fleet from Luminaire. Keep in mind, that it was the CEP that was in control during the century of peace between the Federation and State after the first war, even if it was an uneasy peace. Heth is trying to bully the Federation and until Mentas Blaque showed up, nobody in the Federation has been willing to confront him about it.

The CEP returning to power would be the greatest thing in the galaxy for foreign relations. We would be able to reach a settlement without firing a shot. Lots of yelling and shouting certainly, but none of these needless deaths.



Political suppression did not occur while the CEP was in power. Why is this? Simply put, the cooperation and competition between the megacorporations worked almost like the Gallente system of checks and balances on government. If a megacorporation wanted to handle things aggressively, they would know that they would lose a lot of support and profits as a result. They also know, that taking the high ground can increase their PR. Look at how the other Megacorps bashed Kaalakoita after the massacre. The only way oppression could occur, is if all the Megacorps were fine with it which is near impossible.

However, in terms with dealing with riots, the CEP would probably not be much different than Heth. However, they would never have to worry about riots in the first place or very rarely on a small scale at least. They probably wouldn't need to resort to brutality to fix these issues.

I will attempt to answer your questions as respectfully, honestly and honorably as would be befitting of my ancestors, but this one particular question is simply an unknown. Heth rose to power on the promise of change, and he has brought nothing but the same old same old with a slightly different face behind the same tired and tried methods. Would a post-Heth state be better off? I can’t say, but I have faith that it would be a step in the right direction that our honored ancestors would want.



The ‘New Meritocracy’ is the same as the ‘Old Nepocracy’, the only difference *is the people *in the board room. When I was with the Caldari Business Tribunal we were charged with rooting out nepotism and corruption, and that we did. We began the systematic purge of the rot sitting at the core of our State, but to my disgust those positions were quickly filled those loyal to Heth; Provist lackeys who robbed the State of its great potential by filling positions meant for a new crop of meritocratic blood with those who showed loyalty over talent.

The idea that they have restored the idea of appointment by merit is a fallacy. You will note the very brunt lack of conflicting opinions among the CPD.

While spending has increased towards education programs workers are hardly better represented. I watched Home Guard forces terminate worker contracts and butcher protesting workers who peacefully asked for the Executor to make good on the promises you claim he has fulfilled. The Economic growth you mentioned has been spurred by the mobilization of industry towards war, and is only a bandage. There is no economist out there that will tell you this will or could last forever and it’s already beginning to show cracks.

If the CEP were to return to power I would hope they would begin to make good on these reforms, rather than merely claim they were and power would return to the shareholders, where it firmly belongs, rather than in the hands of a single demagogue.



The CEP would have likely sought an end to the conflict, and opened diplomatic bridges to increase profitability rather than allow the situation to deteriate. We already know that the cost of maintaining operation on Home is ghastly due to the war, and we know that Caldari business practice would play a large part in how diplomacy was conducted. Heth doesn’t seem to consider the sheer cost of what he’s doing and the result of his inability to fix the States core problems.



Tibus Heth has broken Caldari Law in various instances and even so boldly as over ridden what was arguably the highest office of law in the State, the Caldari Business Tribunal. *The Megas at least respected the CBT and its jurisdiction to *the extent that they never openly challenged it.

The Megas, while not collectively known for their leniency when it comes to rebellion, is hardly a justification for the man who claimed to represent the oppressed to carry out the same policy. Hypocrisy is not a virtue worth merit and if he does not hold up to the ideals he props up then the insult to our system should not be tolerated.



In short, much of what you claim the Executor has done he has indeed not. The cost of his promise has led to perversion of the system that has kept our State alive since it conception. Heth has not saved the State, he has distracted it.

To put it simply, Heth is a warmonger. Before we had corruption and suffering. Now we have war and death. Corruption and suffering can be fixed, death in the State not so much. My family never really fully supported Heth, they simply saw which way the world was drifting and set them selves up to not be crushed. I think that many have done the same. Heth's change isn't real change. But his violence certainly spills blood.

Not to say he is the only offender in the galaxy. But if we're going to have a thread about him, then I'll refrain from mentioning my problem with the Gallente.

Damn.
She's back.
I had hoped you had crawled back under the rock from which you emerged Kim.
Please do.
And die there.

It's for the good of the cluster and your precious state.

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Seven Tribes.
One Matari People

I myself still have citizenship and never supported violation of Caldari law. Concord maybe, but not Caldari law. And murder I may be, but not of Caldari citizens. Because what I am doing I am doing for them, not against them.
This means that either you was horribly desinformed (please tell me by whom then and where, so I could handle this situation), or you are simply trolling, aren't you?

Perhaps I jump to conclusions based on your rather tactless position that anti-Provists should be euthanized.

I find it hard to support Heth without indirectly supportiong the afore mentioned accusations. The facts remains that under Heth Caldari Law has been broken and Caldari citizens have been murdered. Until proof that these things are helping the people and strengthening the State for us all, I can only scoff at the notion that your doing these thing for them.

This coming from the nut job sitting at a station undock zone taking pot shots at destroyers and mining ships in a battleship and kill mail whoring? Right.

Let me know when you actually wanna fight fair.

To me, it's simple. If Caldari wanan do their thing, let them. In a perfect world, we'd reconcile over the crap that happened in the past.
The Gallente would say, 'our bad.'
The Caldari would say, 'eh, fine. Can we have our house back?'
The Gallente would say, 'sure man, just keep guns to a minimal.'
And that'd be it.

The Caldari would have their home world and have a Navy in place, but nothing large enough to invade another planet. They'd be given free passage from Luminaire to their own space, and that'd be that. But the sheer amount of venomous racism from the CPD is keeping anything like that from happening.

The racism needs to end. Racism, from the Caldari I've met that I'm proud to call my friends, is NOT the Caldari way. Merit, credibility, a level head, honor, discipline, efficiency, tradition, all of this is Caldari. All of it is a reflection of the 'Caldari way.'

Racism to the point of guiding policy and inhibiting ANY progress is NOT the Caldari way. Again, I know I'm Gallente, I know someone's gonna say 'you can't say anything about our way!'

All I can say is that my friends happen to be damn good teachers. And if Heth truly were a Caldari worth leading, he would remember the words of Cold Wind and apply them to his life. So far, he ain't.

EDIT: This isn't to say the Fed doesn't have it's own racist nut jobs adding fuel to the fire. Trust me, we want them gone too.

Your definition of treachery does not fit within Caldari Law. We do not execute people for a difference of ideas, if that were the case then Tibus Heth himself should have been executed when he encited State wide riots that cost the lives of citizens in every corner of our Empire. A difference of opinion and opposition to the destruction of our State is not treachery Ms. Kim.