Missions & Complexes

Incredible Screenshots, :)

few questions


armor or shield fleets more active?


top 3 ships to fly "in armor and shields. sides logi to get into fleets fastest"


Shields
1.
2.
3.

Armor
1.
2.
3.



currently can fly a legion teched 2 out


and amarr battle ships t2 meta 4 guns


what would be better

From sheer numbers alone shield fleets are a lot more popular.
Top3 shield dps ships: Nightmare, Machariel, Vindi. Vindi might be best as it's the only one that occasionally has a specific role as a drone bunny.

Armor would most commonly be as Sturmwolke had said. Nightmare can be used effectively in armour fleet comps too

Wow that’s a lot of good questions, I will try to answer them one at a time and in order.

Having both Logistics and DPS covered is the best way to maximize your time doing incursions, while running both at the same time is a really bad idea, having both available for fleet is great. A fleet often falls apart due to lack of a logi or dps pilot replacement, being able to field both pilots will be of great benefit to a fleet, and ensure longer fleet running times. I recommend that all logistics pilots train Logi 5 to provide the most cap stable highest repair rate ship a fleet can have. And Multitasking to 3 will give you 10 locked ships, Multitasking 4 will give you 11 locks but you will need to fit a Signal Amplifier, Multitasking 5 gives you 12 but is rarely necessary.

For some communities the logi pilot handles Ore running in the ’Nation Mining Colony’: basically dropping a stack of ore in a can 60km from warp in point that completes the site when all the rats are dead. Additional task that Logi pilot get is Hacker in the VG site ‘Override Transfer Array’ so Hacking will need to be trained to 3 or 4.

This is a pair of high end logi fits [Scimitar]
[Scimitar, VG utillity]
4x Large Shield Transporter II

Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Corelum B-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive
2x Codebreaker I
Cap Recharger II

Capacitor Power Relay II
3x Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

4x Medium Armor Maintenance Bot II
1x Light Armor Maintenance Bot II

[Scimitar, Links]
4x Large Shield Transporter II

4x Shadow Serpentis Tracking Link (Tracking Speed Script)
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field

3x True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
Signal Amplifier II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II

4x Medium Armor Maintenance Bot II
1x Light Armor Maintenance Bot II



Only the pilots on grid, in fleet, and in a ship that is not a noob ship or shuttle will get paid.

Fleet and wing boosts are a real PITA till someone explains it one time; it’s easiest to do all this if you look at the fleet composition in the Hierarchy view. First of all Leadership 5 allows for 10 pilots in a squad so this must be trained to 5. Additionally each level of Wing Command allows the FC to add one squad of 10 pilots, plus himself, to his fleet, so a minimum of squad command 2 is required to run a VG fleet with 12 people in it. Assaults will require 20 pilots, so two full squads, but I would recommend training it to 3, as it will simplify squad structure IE: Logi squad, Long range squad, short range squad.

The boosts are distributed by assigning a booster the role of Wing boost usually revoking everyone’s booster roles and then assigning them in ascending order will correctly distribute the boosts, so the OGB gets wing boost, and squad leaders get squad boosts, the FC will be in the wing lead role but not assigned as a wing booster unless the OGB is in a higher Hierarchical role such as fleet Commander.

An OGB can be shared between two Wings, but the Broadcasts from the FC will get very confusing if it is not configured correctly (both fleets will be getting the same commands from warp to, align to, and whatnot) so usually one OGB per fleet and one FC per OGB.

There is a constant competition for premium sites, and E-Peen is rabid among Incursion communities and this usually amounts to trolling in local, and forum bombing at its worst, any danger to your ship will be on grid with you. To ensure the safety of all fleet members War Deced pilots are not repped in most fleets, as the aggression timers would bring a fleet to a standstill the same as if a war target entered local, pilots are usually informed of this when they get in a fleet.

The clash for Incursion sites is done on grid, if two fleets enter a site, the fleet that does the most damage for the duration of the site gets paid, the other fleet does not get paid at all, this causes a lot of discord.

Phew... Well I think I covered everything.

In the original post could you fix the typo in The Ditanian Fleet channel name, thanks!

Just a little question about this. Aside from Logistics 5, is it mandatory to have Shield Emission and Energy Emission skills at 5 as well, or will a T2 fit (and thus the skills at 4) suffice?

Alright thanks. I've got armor / shield / energy transfers at 4 so can do whatever. I'll come visit the public channels and see if I can get some action. :)

while you wait Goldiiee, what are good clearing times for VG/AS/HQ?

Bump for access

If you prefer Autos then X up with autos, I don’t think I have ever turned down a pilot because he preferred autocannons, and I think most FC’s would feel the same way. 800 mm Machs are still very useful for fleets, although not as handy as a Vindicator for roasting up close targets it still does wonders blapping Tamas on approach, keep a set of Fed Navy webs handy so you can assist in the webbing of orbiting targets, and bring a whole lot of ammo.

I know one of the reasons I switched to artillery was for the savings in ammo, going through roughly 1 million ISK worth of faction EMP for each VG site was bad enough but the 3 to 5 million in HQ’s was just obscene.

Arty Machs are great for sniper and clearing Sansha BS’s from the site, in contests a well timed artillery shot will remove the armour and structure entirely (I get 17k hits quite regularly). But if you love the rapid fire of the autos then train them up and follow with arties.

Or like you said train Hybrids, Blaster Vindi is good for Drone commander, and the Web bonus makes it a no brainer for an FC to pick it for that role. But be aware the blasters work best at T2, the T2 ammo has specific purposes in site so ammo changes should be expected, if your closer to T2 autos and Artys, than T2 blaster and rails, you will be better off finishing training one before switching to the other.