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THINK TANK -- ✓GRAPHICS Revolution! *NEW

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Whim Aqayn
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#281 - 2013-02-25 00:46:48 UTC
No, I don't think this should be a priority.
Shaun Klaroh
Th3 Darp Legion
#282 - 2013-02-25 01:17:51 UTC
Some better detail for ship destruction would certainly improve the look and feel of everything. That's not to say that it's bad right now, just an "it could be better" thing. I would like to see drone failures up to a loss of one. Larger ships would be a problem though since wrecks kind of require a unified position across all clients.
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#283 - 2013-02-25 01:48:37 UTC
I think CCP has some amazing graphics programmers (the work in the new char creator in particular is literally 10x above the competition), so I'm all for new shiny features added from that team.

My only request that I really want to see added is an optional high-res asset pack. Planet surfaces and backgrounds in particular could really benefit from having a higher resolution.
4runner
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#284 - 2013-02-25 01:49:15 UTC
Please tell me how many would unsub if CCP would just say "ahh F*** it lets render the whole game on Cry Engine 3 ?

I would love it, because I can handle it, but most of the people I play with are using what can be called "a avarge laptop" not a multi thousand dollar Gaming rigs like some players.

The Star Citizen game looks just amazing and I will check it out, but asking anywhere near this level of graphics from EVE is just silly...
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#285 - 2013-02-25 04:32:03 UTC
4runner wrote:
Please tell me how many would unsub if CCP would just say "ahh F*** it lets render the whole game on Cry Engine 3 ?

I would love it, because I can handle it, but most of the people I play with are using what can be called "a avarge laptop" not a multi thousand dollar Gaming rigs like some players.

The Star Citizen game looks just amazing and I will check it out, but asking anywhere near this level of graphics from EVE is just silly...



Well obviously we won't be expecting that level of detail just yet.
Its a benchmark toward what is technically doable today.

What we should look at is the blast from the past.
Such as Homeworld and the Jupiter Incident.
Those games are great reference towards what kind of special effects EvE should have

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ashley Eoner
#286 - 2013-02-25 22:18:29 UTC
4runner wrote:
Please tell me how many would unsub if CCP would just say "ahh F*** it lets render the whole game on Cry Engine 3 ?

I would love it, because I can handle it, but most of the people I play with are using what can be called "a avarge laptop" not a multi thousand dollar Gaming rigs like some players.

The Star Citizen game looks just amazing and I will check it out, but asking anywhere near this level of graphics from EVE is just silly...
If you spent multi thousand dollars to play cry 3 engine games then you got ripped off.
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#287 - 2013-02-25 23:28:49 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:
4runner wrote:
Please tell me how many would unsub if CCP would just say "ahh F*** it lets render the whole game on Cry Engine 3 ?

I would love it, because I can handle it, but most of the people I play with are using what can be called "a avarge laptop" not a multi thousand dollar Gaming rigs like some players.

The Star Citizen game looks just amazing and I will check it out, but asking anywhere near this level of graphics from EVE is just silly...
If you spent multi thousand dollars to play cry 3 engine games then you got ripped off.


I paid 1000 and I'm playing crysis 3 on mostly ultra high thank you very much.
Don't be brainwashed.

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ashley Eoner
#288 - 2013-02-26 19:47:05 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
ashley Eoner wrote:
4runner wrote:
Please tell me how many would unsub if CCP would just say "ahh F*** it lets render the whole game on Cry Engine 3 ?

I would love it, because I can handle it, but most of the people I play with are using what can be called "a avarge laptop" not a multi thousand dollar Gaming rigs like some players.

The Star Citizen game looks just amazing and I will check it out, but asking anywhere near this level of graphics from EVE is just silly...
If you spent multi thousand dollars to play cry 3 engine games then you got ripped off.


I paid 1000 and I'm playing crysis 3 on mostly ultra high thank you very much.
Don't be brainwashed.
Good for you?
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#289 - 2013-02-26 22:53:43 UTC
4runner wrote:
Please tell me how many would unsub if CCP would just say "ahh F*** it lets render the whole game on Cry Engine 3 ?

I would love it, because I can handle it, but most of the people I play with are using what can be called "a avarge laptop" not a multi thousand dollar Gaming rigs like some players.

The Star Citizen game looks just amazing and I will check it out, but asking anywhere near this level of graphics from EVE is just silly...



Cry engine 3 can be run by an xbox, its nothing special.
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#290 - 2013-03-21 04:35:58 UTC
Diesel47 wrote:
4runner wrote:
Please tell me how many would unsub if CCP would just say "ahh F*** it lets render the whole game on Cry Engine 3 ?

I would love it, because I can handle it, but most of the people I play with are using what can be called "a avarge laptop" not a multi thousand dollar Gaming rigs like some players.

The Star Citizen game looks just amazing and I will check it out, but asking anywhere near this level of graphics from EVE is just silly...



Cry engine 3 can be run by an xbox, its nothing special.


It is when you are on DX11 if full BBAO and at 40fps , but thats not the point of the thread is it?
The point is , we've already SEEN , the damage models on this last EvE Con.
WE'VE SEEN the various ship models , the Lai Dais , and Quafe , the Concord.
THEY ARE ALL OUT THERE!
Why is CCP holding them back for consumer use ?

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Sync Hronization
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#291 - 2013-03-21 05:42:45 UTC
I wouldn't mind an explanation as to why CCP can't release an update to allow the launcher to launch in DX9 or DX11.

I know games like The Secret World can, then there is of course all the single player games that have the option as well.


I agree with a lot of you that having explosions updated would be fantastic, not only for the older players looking for something new, but for the curious new players who first lay their eyes on this big explosion.
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#292 - 2013-03-21 05:56:48 UTC
Sync Hronization wrote:
I wouldn't mind an explanation as to why CCP can't release an update to allow the launcher to launch in DX9 or DX11.

I know games like The Secret World can, then there is of course all the single player games that have the option as well.


I agree with a lot of you that having explosions updated would be fantastic, not only for the older players looking for something new, but for the curious new players who first lay their eyes on this big explosion.




This

My 7950 hungers for more EVE
I can Downlclock mostly everything and get decent framerates at max settings
I find that ridiculous

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Tub Chil
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#293 - 2013-03-21 07:20:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Tub Chil
What I want most of all in eve is more information from the screen, not just overview.
Tactical overlay is pretty bad, it needs to be tweaked heavily.
I want to see ship types, their direction, signature, etc. by LOOKING at them.
I remember at some point there were new icons on Sisi but CCP didn't continue the project.

undocking, drone launching and other animations would be cool as well.

Also ship wrecks that resemble original ships would be nice
also scratches on combat tested ships Pirate
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#294 - 2013-03-21 07:22:57 UTC
Tub Chil wrote:
What I want most of all in eve is more information from the screen, not just overview.
Tactical overlay is pretty bad, it needs to be tweaked heavily.
I want to see ship types, their direction, signature, etc. by LOOKING at them.
I remember at some point there were new icons on Sisi but CCP didn't continue the project.

undocking, drone launching and other animations would be cool as well.


That would be fabulous !!

However , bear in mind . The current UI is already JAM PACKED full of information and tools , if we fit anymore of it without proper thought. EvE would be come a point and click adventure game .(not sarcastic)

Do you have some concept art you would like to share with us about the vision of the overhauled UI ?

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Tub Chil
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#295 - 2013-03-21 07:39:00 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Tub Chil wrote:
What I want most of all in eve is more information from the screen, not just overview.
Tactical overlay is pretty bad, it needs to be tweaked heavily.
I want to see ship types, their direction, signature, etc. by LOOKING at them.
I remember at some point there were new icons on Sisi but CCP didn't continue the project.

undocking, drone launching and other animations would be cool as well.


That would be fabulous !!

However , bear in mind . The current UI is already JAM PACKED full of information and tools , if we fit anymore of it without proper thought. EvE would be come a point and click adventure game .(not sarcastic)

Do you have some concept art you would like to share with us about the vision of the overhauled UI ?

Current eve UI does not even look like game UI, it's more like a window manager for OS. it's hard to fit anything inside
separate icons for ships could work, to show hull types at least (frigate cruiser etc.)
signature bloom could be a little dot in icon corner. or more obvious flames from engines.

on selected item window and lock icon we could see 3D image instead of 2d icon that we have now. 3d image is good as it changes direction towards your ship, as enemy approaches or escapes.

direction in space could be indicated by arrow or icon direction. and there should be icon for YOUR ship.
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#296 - 2013-03-21 07:44:44 UTC
Tub Chil wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Tub Chil wrote:
What I want most of all in eve is more information from the screen, not just overview.
Tactical overlay is pretty bad, it needs to be tweaked heavily.
I want to see ship types, their direction, signature, etc. by LOOKING at them.
I remember at some point there were new icons on Sisi but CCP didn't continue the project.

undocking, drone launching and other animations would be cool as well.


That would be fabulous !!

However , bear in mind . The current UI is already JAM PACKED full of information and tools , if we fit anymore of it without proper thought. EvE would be come a point and click adventure game .(not sarcastic)

Do you have some concept art you would like to share with us about the vision of the overhauled UI ?

Current eve UI does not even look like game UI, it's more like a window manager for OS. it's hard to fit anything inside
separate icons for ships could work, to show hull types at least (frigate cruiser etc.)
signature bloom could be a little dot in icon corner. or more obvious flames from engines.

on selected item window and lock icon we could see 3D image instead of 2d icon that we have now. 3d image is good as it changes direction towards your ship, as enemy approaches or escapes.

direction in space could be indicated by arrow or icon direction. and there should be icon for YOUR ship.



can you uhh.... draw it?

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marVLs
#297 - 2013-03-21 09:20:23 UTC
Imma want:

- new better epic explosions
- better textures on big ships
- more better nebulas (better space feel not colorfull pony sky)
- Sci-fi UI, something like on fanfest 2012
- let us fly in space not some fluid
- new hangars (3per faction)
- new jump effects
- new cloack/decloak effects
- new awesome shield effects
- remove smoke trails from missiles ffs, get them some sci-fi

And most important improve scalling.
Make stations bigger (add orbital towns not only single station)
Stations close to planets so it looks like on every space movie/game/even eve trailers...
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#298 - 2013-03-21 09:23:56 UTC
marVLs wrote:
Imma want:

- new better epic explosions
- better textures on big ships
- more better nebulas (better space feel not colorfull pony sky)
- Sci-fi UI, something like on fanfest 2012
- let us fly in space not some fluid
- new hangars (3per faction)
- new jump effects
- new cloack/decloak effects
- new awesome shield effects
- remove smoke trails from missiles ffs, get them some sci-fi

And most important improve scalling.
Make stations bigger (add orbital towns not only single station)
Stations close to planets so it looks like on every space movie/game/even eve trailers...


Make the texture to scale too !
The sense of scale of ships is WAAAY OFF!
The geometrical and model details of ships doesn't scale at all!!!

When you put an Algos and a Thanatos side by side , you honestly can't tell which one is bigger .

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marVLs
#299 - 2013-03-21 10:22:50 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:

Make the texture to scale too !
The sense of scale of ships is WAAAY OFF!
The geometrical and model details of ships doesn't scale at all!!!

When you put an Algos and a Thanatos side by side , you honestly can't tell which one is bigger .


True true, space thingy should be epic, in EVE bad scalling destroy everything
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#300 - 2013-03-21 10:26:56 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
If you're actually comparing the current graphics to the ones from a game released in 2003 (the same year people started playing EVe by the way), then you probably need to pony up & buy new computer hardware. You can't really judge when you have everything set to 'low'.

its on high thx.
Try zooming onto your ship .
You'll see the problem.



That is your problem.. eve is properly played fully zoomed out when you see only tiny yellow red and blue boxes! I do not want to waste even move of my computer when this is an excel game in fact.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"