Intergalactic Summit

Dismissing me when proven wrong or just too lazy to read is quite juvenile I'm afraid.

Trust me, I know what's going on. I've not only reported on these events but my new evening news show "Fred Fred Freederation" has seen quite a bit of success with it's first episode discussing such a topic. We had people from across New Eden share their thoughts live and we the discussion continues on Galnet!

I will take up on your suggestion for sleep and a breakfast though, I've been horribly busy.

"You cannot relocate or intimidate a true loyal Gallentean."

Loyalty is not magical protection shield against forcible physical relocation, you twit.

Unarmed civilians are among the easiest populations to intimidate, for obvious reasons. As I suspect you have little experience on either end of that spectrum, your opinion has little worth.


"With cloning, killing us is pretty hard too. "

An infinitesimal percentage of the Federation population has access to cloning. Unless you thought I was referring to capsuleers, which means you didn't comprehend the discussion's focus around civilians. Again, you are wrong.



What you are talking about is genocide on a massive scale. How can you even justify such an act?

A few hundred thousand or a few million out of a pool of billions does not a Genocide make. And you are speaking to someone who released half a million slaves in bondage so another capsuleer would shut his filthy mouth for two weeks on this very forum. My course of action would set a very clear set of consequences for the Ethnic Gallente to consider before causing trouble on Caldari Prime.


"Also, we still don't know who the hell blew up that damn building. Due to your oppressive government, I can safely say that it's just as likely that your own people or even your own government destroyed the Provist headquarters. "

It doesn't matter who blew up the building. It has the appearance of harming State interests and undermining State occupational authority, hence reactions to be directed against the Gallente.


"And do you think the Federation would just sit idly by as you do this? History has shown that us Gallente tend to have vendettas against those who have wronged us."

Quite correct, and expected. Brutalising the Gallente population on Caldari Prime has the benefit of establishing total control while simultaneously goading a response from the main Federation Navy.


"We will never fire the first shot, but you can be damn sure that when we retaliate it's going to hurt for a long time. Look at what happened when Kador tried to invade Federal Space. We completely overkilled his fleet. "

As has been discussed many times previous, the whole shebang was about Imperial House politics, sweety. Fed Navy was a convenient pawn to use for a re-allocation of House Kador assets and shoring up of Jamyl's authority. If you were being invaded you bright young thing, I think the Empire could swing more than 200 warships. [quote]


"The Federation is like a nesting Eagle. Don't touch our nest or harm us and we will leave you alone. If you mess with the Eagle though, your going to get it's talons. "

Atrociously poor metaphor. F-


Also, what would CONCORD think of such a despicable act? The consequences for the State would be disastrous. They would never attempt such a thing (maybe with Tibus Heth in power they might) and most Caldari would never hope for it (unlike you), however if the government decides to be foolish then things will go real bad.

The same thing they thought when the Republic attacked CONCORD and tried to invade the Empire, which is to flail their arms, yell at everyone, and arrive to the too party fashionably late.


"Only the worst Gallenteans think that the Caldari are monsters and vice versa. There is good and bad on each side. I don't think the Caldari are monsters. Their government? Oh certainly, but not the Caldari people. NEVER the Caldari people. In the few years I lived away from my home and in the Caldari State, I've experienced more kindness and generosity from random Caldari strangers than outside my circle of friends and relatives in the Federation."

And the Caldari government is made up of.... that's right, Caldari. Governments aren't some illusive entity, they are comprised of those very citizenry you fight. In the case of the State, the government is made up generally of the citizens which MOST embody their society and fit in and perform the best. If you have issue with their government you have issue with their people.

"Trust me, I know what's going on."

I hope some of my responses have established why no one should trust you, and why you clearly have -no- idea what is going on.

Thank you!

It is perhaps an old trope in this arena, but I'll remind you that criticizing someone for continuing to post in a thread while continuing to post in the same thread yourself is an ineffective strategy.

"I can't believe you are still wasting your time reading and posting in this awful forum thread!"

"Hold on while I add another post to the thread I've continued to monitor and respond to."

If you do not care about your reputation then you would be the first capsuleer of the modern era to do so.

You are therefore a liar or a fool, or a common mixture of both.


And Anslo as this is a thread that I started, it is likely I will be responding to posts contained therein often. Generally how these things work.

The federation is not a juggernaut. More a sprinter, since it cannot sustain in its people the protracted bloodlust required for a total war. The standard of living in the federation is relatively high, everyone likes ther creature comforts and everyone enjoys their little hobbies, whether its dancing, drinking or just shopping for whatever. Then along comes total war with rationing, conscription and curfews. Suddenly you can't go out clubbing, you're working more hours and getting paid less for it, no more coffee breaks and cushy office jobs, you're heading down to the ammunition factories and you're waving your two point five kids goodbye as they are taken from you and fed into the maw of the war machine. And all the while you've got this niggling doubt that today a Caldari fleet could wander into your system and decide to take revenge for when the Gallenteans bombed Home again. This would naturally shock the Gallentean system quite badly, but not as badly as the Black Eagles suddenly becoming much more prevalent. All your calls are being recorded, some of your friends have disappeared after they laughed at a joke about Mentas Blaque. This naturally worries you as you laughed too.
So you vote for an end to the war and if enough people are stung by the same shortages and rationing, they will vote with you, I give it five years, ten tops.

There is a sleeping juggernaut that has got the power for total war, the manpower to begin it and the will to continue it. That juggernaut however is not the Gallenteans.

It is not a hard choice. According to battle scenarios, the ideal solution for planet pacification is the extermination of the Ethnic Gallente and Gallente sympathizers. This will minimize State casualties while ensuring completion of objectives.

It is the logical choice.

Re-run your battle scenario's to take into account that the vast majority of the populace is ethnic Gallentee then consider the shame such actions would bring to your ancestors.

Then adhere to logic and recant the illogical suggestion you just put forward.

Before I begin, learn to use the quoting system if you are going to reply in this fashion.




As it has been clearly demonstrated by, pretty much every civilization in New Eden, loyal citizens of country will not go down without a fight. These insurrections on Caldari Prime, while I do not support them, clearly show that people, especially Gallenteans, will not go quietly.

Unarmed civillians are not easily intimidated I'm afraid. The brave Kaalakoita workers that took a stand against tyranny in the State a few weeks ago did not let a fully armed force of oppression stop them from standing up for what they believed in.




It's quite amazing how you are over analyzing every word I say in an attempt to look intelligent, which I will remind you is failing miserably. The reference to cloning was more or less, a really dry joke.



Most dictionaries currently define genocide as "the deliberate systematic extermination of a national, racial, political or cultural group".

Is having a Caldari to Gallente "exchange ratio" not systematic? Would the destruction of entire Gallente cities not be deliberate? We already know you are specifically targeting Gallenteans. Sounds like genocide to me.

And you released half a million slaves just to prove someone wrong? Seems like you are easily manipulated and care far too much about what people think of you. Kudos for releasing the slaves, even if for the wrong reason.



So just because it conflicts with the State's interest, that automatically makes the Gallente responsible? You are absolutely insane. There are many groups other than the Gallente that would conflict with State interest, many of them of Caldari origin.



Some people, just want to watch the galaxy burn. While people such as my self try to promote peace, people like you come along and seem to take joy in warfare and bloodshed for no reason.

Orbital bombardment is ineffective. Ideal outcome would involve use of heavy group troups along with surveillance to eradicate subject population.