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Proposal - End censorship of one the largest EVE fan sites.

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Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#141 - 2011-10-29 16:29:18 UTC
Doesn't look like it is going to happen, from the responses I got from CCP. I will ask them to clearly state what the *current* problem is with kugu.com in this thread or something.

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#142 - 2011-10-29 17:28:08 UTC
Two step wrote:
Doesn't look like it is going to happen, from the responses I got from CCP. I will ask them to clearly state what the *current* problem is with kugu.com in this thread or something.


Tell that hacker to change the name of his website. Problem solved.
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#143 - 2011-10-29 18:32:18 UTC
The website is filtered as is any other website which promotes EULA violating activities or engages in the distribution of malware once we become aware of it. It will remain so.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012
Xutech
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#144 - 2011-10-29 19:21:52 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
The website is filtered as is any other website which promotes EULA violating activities or engages in the distribution of malware once we become aware of it. It will remain so.


Then I expect you will list and describe those violations.

Since you have chosen to describe our site as one which "promotes EULA violating activities" or "engages in the distribution of malware" you can explain how we have done so and how you came by that information.

If you wish to treat our site as a dangerous one, you can remedy this by warning the large number of EVE players who visit our site.

You can also warn the CSM members who visit our site that they are, as you describe it, in some form of danger.

Because making spurious comments about our site and the safety of those who visit it is unacceptable.

Making these comments and then failing to act on your information, or allowing us to defend ourselves and challenge your claims are also unacceptable.

You are either failing to properly protect your subscribers or you are maintaining a vendetta against our site.
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#145 - 2011-10-29 19:26:33 UTC
Not a single comment was spurious and nothing is going to change from a filtering perspective. I'm sorry you disagree.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012
Venetian Tar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#146 - 2011-10-29 20:25:43 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
The website is filtered as is any other website which promotes EULA violating activities or engages in the distribution of malware once we become aware of it. It will remain so.


Please, link evidence to the distribution of malware along with anything else.

This is simply CCP trying to hide a piece of its past that they don't like.

I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existance.
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
#147 - 2011-10-29 20:27:44 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
The website is filtered as is any other website which promotes EULA violating activities or engages in the distribution of malware once we become aware of it. It will remain so.

Has CCP contacted law enforcement regarding this distribution of malware? If not, why not?

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CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#148 - 2011-10-29 20:36:10 UTC
Jack Dant wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:
The website is filtered as is any other website which promotes EULA violating activities or engages in the distribution of malware once we become aware of it. It will remain so.

Has CCP contacted law enforcement regarding this distribution of malware? If not, why not?


Instances of malware have been admitted to within this very thread. This thread is over as far as I'm concerned and I've already told you that the site will remain filtered in perpetuity. That's not changing based on my own observations.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012
Venetian Tar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#149 - 2011-10-29 20:37:31 UTC
So I'll go with my previous point, then.

Thanks for clearing that up.

I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existance.
Steelshine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#150 - 2011-10-29 20:40:00 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
The website is filtered as is any other website which promotes EULA violating activities or engages in the distribution of malware once we become aware of it. It will remain so.


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Midge Mo'yb
State War Academy
Caldari State
#151 - 2011-10-29 21:27:26 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Jack Dant wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:
The website is filtered as is any other website which promotes EULA violating activities or engages in the distribution of malware once we become aware of it. It will remain so.

Has CCP contacted law enforcement regarding this distribution of malware? If not, why not?


Instances of malware have been admitted to within this very thread. This thread is over as far as I'm concerned and I've already told you that the site will remain filtered in perpetuity. That's not changing based on my own observations.



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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#152 - 2011-10-29 22:24:47 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Instances of malware have been admitted to within this very thread.

Oh, really?

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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#153 - 2011-10-29 22:47:27 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
The website is filtered as is any other website which promotes EULA violating activities or engages in the distribution of malware once we become aware of it. It will remain so.

You guys are aware that any site that has google ads on it, and is related to eve, is probably going to end up with ads for EULA violating activities, are you not? Shocked

Guess this means that they have to filter 50% of the internet Cool

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Zrygthn Azurlm Zharous
Pink Sockers
#154 - 2011-10-29 23:17:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Zrygthn Azurlm Zharous
Anyone who posts on Kugu should have thier account flagged for investigation to check they aren't involved in any nefarious activities such as account sharing, botting, hate crimes and people smuggling.

If you guys want to discuss politics, news or anything else to do with Eve there is a great site I highly recommend called evenews24.com. It is pretty unbiased and you can even write up your own stories which Riverini will publish! Also the site is completely free from malware and password aren't saved in plain text format.
Marivauder
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#155 - 2011-10-29 23:24:35 UTC
Am i late to the party? Free Kugu

and can i have foreplay please?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#156 - 2011-10-29 23:59:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
CCP Sreegs wrote:
The website is filtered as is any other website which promotes EULA violating activities or engages in the distribution of malware once we become aware of it. It will remain so.


ahahahahahah

seriously, as far as I know, kugu is the only site that is filtered here.

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Fix Lag
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#157 - 2011-10-30 00:27:43 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Instances of malware have been admitted to within this very thread.


Then it should be remarkably easy for you to point them out.

You wouldn't look so bad if the argument you were using didn't boil down to "We're still mad at them but won't officially say so because that would somehow make us look worse than we already do on this subject." I would think better of CCP if Kugutsu men was no longer censored.

CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude.
David Carel
SWAT Team Sales Consultants
#158 - 2011-10-30 00:42:51 UTC  |  Edited by: David Carel
CCP Sreegs wrote:
The website is filtered as is any other website which promotes EULA violating activities or engages in the distribution of malware once we become aware of it. It will remain so.


Oh god, that's the worst reasoning lie ever.
Let's test with a site that is one of the first in a search for eve hacks: http://publicdemands.co.uk

See?
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#159 - 2011-10-30 01:12:31 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Guard
Fix Lag wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Instances of malware have been admitted to within this very thread.


Then it should be remarkably easy for you to point them out.

You wouldn't look so bad if the argument you were using didn't boil down to "We're still mad at them but won't officially say so because that would somehow make us look worse than we already do on this subject." I would think better of CCP if Kugutsu men was no longer censored.


It's not an argument or really even a subject that's up for discussion. I'm informing you why it's staying this way. How you feel I look is irrelevant.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#160 - 2011-10-30 01:12:51 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Sreegs
David Carel wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:
The website is filtered as is any other website which promotes EULA violating activities or engages in the distribution of malware once we become aware of it. It will remain so.


Oh god, that's the worst reasoning lie ever.
Let's test with a site that is one of the first in a search for eve hacks: http://publicdemands.co.uk

See?


Thanks for pointing that out buddy I'll have it added forthwith.

:edit: The reason it's not is likely that most people know better than to try to link it. Something that doesn't appear to be the case with the site in question.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012