EVE General Discussion

Rifter? More like a speed tanked executioner... with no shields.. or armor.
The first three (four?) TIE Fighter campaigns were a blast. Nothing like half hour dogfights in a ship where half your modules explode the first time you take a hit, and most of the time you won't live through a second.

Confirming you have never contributed anything positive in any post you have made.

I didn’t choose you to raise and it isn’t my place to teach the ways of the world. I understand someone disagrees with your play style perhaps and some people may like to see a change to the ability to gank high value ships with low cost high dps trash fits.

Since you seem to lack the maturity to communicate effectively as an adult which allows for constructive conversation I can see why you choose to troll or lash out and have a tantrum but it does not add anything of value.

Please take a step back or ask your Mom and Dad for permission to leave the basement and leave the adults to continue their discussion on the topic at hand. Trying to get the post banned for trolling wont make the issue go away.

Again I may not agree with everyone’s point of view but I do respect their privilege to have that point of view regardless of how it may differ from my own.

As you get older you may find the world like this game is full of different point of views. How you choose to deal with those that differ from your own can determine how far you can grow as a human being.

My memory seems to be rusty. Can you remind me which belt rats drop Intact Armor Plates?

It's all well and good to have a different opinion but even suggesting that piracy has no place in EVE is completely and utterly wrong. The mechanics are fine, but not your attitude. Being able to putter about in an excessively shiny ship without any risk has never been a theme in EVE, period. You are literally asking for a massive change to the game's design philosophy. If you want a game where you can play in isolation without worrying that someone else will kill you and loot your epics, try some other game. EVE is not and should never become such a game.

Should it? No, ideally clever players would be aware of their surroundings and the gank would fail. However if people want to fly around with billions of isk in one fragile balloon.. then yes, yes others should come and take their stuff.

Nice try, but I'm above letting you goad me into personal attacks. I've been around the interwebs for a spell, and my forum Kung Fu is much stronger than yours. Especially when the points you try to make are so easily picked apart.

I posted before that you are the poster child for carebears in this game. That holds true again in this thread. You seem to be a strong advocate against any kind of emergent gameplay, in a game whose sole claim to fame is exactly that which you seem to dislike the most.

The PvE element of this game is boring. Like every other MMO, it's repetitive, predictable, and at best, moderately entertaining even for the players who engage in it most. In most other games, there is a very clear distinction between PvE and PvP elements. There are different servers, and an entirely different player base. None of that exists in Eve. Here, PvP is a very real possibility every time you are in space, whether you choose to participate or even acknowledge it.

Maybe you just want to be left alone to play the game in peace. I can respect that. However, I have equal respect for the player who wants to blow you to smithereens. And THAT is where we differ. You are vocal about wanting to play your game the way you want to play it at the expense of how others choose to play the same game.

The problemin EVE is that the police stops after they have stopped the aggression while in RL the police tries to track you down if you get away and get the stolen items back from you.

So I do agree that ganging should be profitable but it should be alot harder.

No, not really. If the gankers were forced to do something else would they still participate in the overall game and its economy unless they decided to quit the game. Having a legitimate reason does not mean you cannot have your giggles, too. I have also not said to remove all ganking. The thread is still about profitable ganking, thus ganking for a reason, and I am saying it should be allowed. Only the kind of ganking where the only goal is to cause a random player a greater loss than yourself is what I am questing.

good but cheap T1 -- no. But then again, you run into the bit where the hull itself may be the profitable bit (e.g. T2 salvage), so it's a tossup here.

T2 -- if it's the same fit as our "good but cheap T1" fit (e.g. we went from meta 2/3 to T2), then most likely not. This is due to needing comparatively too many ships to break the T2 tank.

An industrial's cargohold is usually "rated" for an ISK tank of approximately 100 million; freighter is usually "rated" for an ISK tank of about a billion. Now, keep in mind that these are generalizations, and either ship can (and sometimes will) be ganked for less.

my opinion and i am sure many will agree
If the gank is done with the hope that the target will drop valuable modules and/or cargo sure a gank can be profitable
since the ganker(s) do put effort into choosing their targets n setting up the gank and hope that the loot is valuable , highway robbery true but it fits the game

If the gank is done with the sole purpose of griefing , never
griefing people soley because you can , because it ruins somebody else his day and soley because you do not like their playing style is lame , cheap and says enough about the childish character of the ganker and never should be rewarded