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And you thought HI was too safe???? Welcome to Thunderdome™

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Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#221 - 2013-03-19 22:15:40 UTC
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
Lemme guess, you are one of the GSF Survey bitches aren't you?


Nope but done it before enough to know I want to blow my brains out by the end, but try again vaunted npc poster
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#222 - 2013-03-19 22:17:15 UTC
Ustrello wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:
Ustrello wrote:
Have you ever scanned an entire region before let alone a constellation? Depletion is the most pants on head ******** idea ever


I don't expect a goon sitting in his empty palace that is null to be accepting of the idea. It does require you to change and you know....do more than blob the next person coming through the gate. Unfortunate for you, this is a situation that is ultimately bad for the game as a business. So, expect it to change.


Very good response to someone who has been in goons for all of two weeks. Very good


I think you've pretty much qualified yourself.

Don't ban me, bro!
Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#223 - 2013-03-19 22:21:54 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
Ustrello wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:
Ustrello wrote:
Have you ever scanned an entire region before let alone a constellation? Depletion is the most pants on head ******** idea ever


I don't expect a goon sitting in his empty palace that is null to be accepting of the idea. It does require you to change and you know....do more than blob the next person coming through the gate. Unfortunate for you, this is a situation that is ultimately bad for the game as a business. So, expect it to change.


Very good response to someone who has been in goons for all of two weeks. Very good


I think you've pretty much qualified yourself.


Because depletion is probably the worst idea since the barge buff?
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#224 - 2013-03-19 23:18:29 UTC
Organized events, meaningless fights.

Azeroth has invaded New Eden. Thanks Goons and friends. Big smile

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#225 - 2013-03-19 23:22:03 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
Organized events, meaningless fights.

Azeroth has invaded New Eden. Thanks Goons and friends. Big smile


Nothing is stopping you from raising your own fleets to oppose us.
Frying Doom
#226 - 2013-03-19 23:26:06 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
Organized events, meaningless fights.

Azeroth has invaded New Eden. Thanks Goons and friends. Big smile


Nothing is stopping you from raising your own fleets to oppose us.

I believe the expression I am looking for is "why bother"

With the tech moon welfare checks, destroying Goon ships has little or no meaning, while their destroying the ships of others does.

So while Tech moon and for that matter any top down income, Null will remain boring and frankly without much of a point.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#227 - 2013-03-19 23:28:44 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
Organized events, meaningless fights.

Azeroth has invaded New Eden. Thanks Goons and friends. Big smile


Nothing is stopping you from raising your own fleets to oppose us.


Can I also join Thunderdome™ ? Do I have to include a 500 million deposit along with the Thunderdome™ fleet application & will you be handling all the ISK Lol
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Alara IonStorm
#228 - 2013-03-19 23:38:37 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:

I believe the expression I am looking for is "why bother"

With the tech moon welfare checks, destroying Goon ships has little or no meaning, while their destroying the ships of others does.

Can you not afford ships? Battlcruisers are pretty cheap, you can grind up a new one in like an hour or 3 Cruisers, more if you go meta plus insurance.

It isn't like you can die or anything, you can attack endlessly.
Frying Doom
#229 - 2013-03-19 23:43:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

I believe the expression I am looking for is "why bother"

With the tech moon welfare checks, destroying Goon ships has little or no meaning, while their destroying the ships of others does.

Can you not afford ships? Battlcruisers are pretty cheap, you can grind up a new one in like an hour or 3 Cruisers, more if you go meta plus insurance.

It isn't like you can die or anything, you can attack endlessly.

I can afford lots of ships but again "Why bother"

I nor anyone else can compete against those tech moons, as even if someone where to take say 10 of them off you, you have gained so much isk for so long that you would have the ability to fight back even if you were to sustain massive losses.

You would easily be able to sustain a 10 to 1 loss ratio while your opponents would eventually be unable to sustain that level.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Alara IonStorm
#230 - 2013-03-19 23:44:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Frying Doom wrote:

You would easily be able to sustain a 10 to 1 loss ratio while your opponents would eventually be unable to sustain that level.

1 Hour of Grinding = 1 Battlecruiser or 3 Cruiser or more if you use Meta. Even more Smaller Ships.

Money is less important then showing up more.
Frying Doom
#231 - 2013-03-19 23:49:42 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

You would easily be able to sustain a 10 to 1 loss ratio while your opponents would eventually be unable to sustain that level.

1 Hour of Grinding = 1 Battlecruiser or 3 Cruiser or more if you use Meta. Even more Smaller Ships.

Money is less important then showing up more.

So to use your analogy 1 Hour of Grinding = 1 Battlecruiser or 3 Cruiser for every one else
Goonswarm 0 Hours of Grinding = 1 Battlecruiser or 3 Cruiser or more

So again why bother?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Alara IonStorm
#232 - 2013-03-19 23:52:07 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:

So to use your analogy 1 Hour of Grinding = 1 Battlecruiser or 3 Cruiser for every one else
Goonswarm 0 Hours of Grinding = 1 Battlecruiser or 3 Cruiser or more

So again why bother?

To fight them so much that they choose not marshal forces against you. Dedication matters more then money since there is no shortage of ships.
Frying Doom
#233 - 2013-03-20 00:06:19 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

So to use your analogy 1 Hour of Grinding = 1 Battlecruiser or 3 Cruiser for every one else
Goonswarm 0 Hours of Grinding = 1 Battlecruiser or 3 Cruiser or more

So again why bother?

To fight them so much that they choose not marshal forces against you. Dedication matters more then money since there is no shortage of ships.

Except they have a massive moral booster in the Tech moons.

to look at it this way goons loose 1000 ships and have to do nothing to replace them

Everyone else as you pointed out losses 100 and needs to spend a collective 100 hours grinding.

So it really is a why bother as those moons are a massive moral boost beyond what anyone else can bring to the table

and if you doubt this just look at the Sov map.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#234 - 2013-03-20 00:09:31 UTC
…sooo how much is a Tech moon worth a month, again?
Alara IonStorm
#235 - 2013-03-20 00:13:00 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:

So it really is a why bother as those moons are a massive moral boost beyond what anyone else can bring to the table

An excellent reason to spur your troops on to conquer them in glorious battle.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#236 - 2013-03-20 00:15:53 UTC
Tippia wrote:
…sooo how much is a Tech moon worth a month, again?


Apparently enough to make players feel, they can lose ships easily in a thunderdome experience.

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Frying Doom
#237 - 2013-03-20 00:17:19 UTC
Tippia wrote:
…sooo how much is a Tech moon worth a month, again?

The more relevant question would be how large is the balance of Goonswarms wallet.

and the answer, last I heard was around 1.5 trillion.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#238 - 2013-03-20 00:17:40 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

So it really is a why bother as those moons are a massive moral boost beyond what anyone else can bring to the table

An excellent reason to spur your troops on to conquer them in glorious battle.


Defenders can do that as well.

Personally I just say move to hi sec and do incursions or missions and what not.

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Frying Doom
#239 - 2013-03-20 00:18:19 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

So it really is a why bother as those moons are a massive moral boost beyond what anyone else can bring to the table

An excellent reason to spur your troops on to conquer them in glorious battle.

No a very excellent reason not to bother.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#240 - 2013-03-20 00:19:50 UTC
Tippia wrote:
…sooo how much is a Tech moon worth a month, again?

Are you trying to imply that they are worthless? Or that an Alliance that can declare "endless hulkageddon" *and mean it* doesn't have a huge resource reserve?

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.