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Offers and Rewards.... New accounts Vs Existing Customers

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Tiaggo
Celtic Dragon Corp Inc
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#1 - 2011-10-29 18:16:10 UTC
I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,

Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.

I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.

Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?

Thoughts & Comments Welcomed

Tiaggo
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#2 - 2011-10-29 18:19:22 UTC
Tiaggo wrote:
I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,

Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.

I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.

Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?

Thoughts & Comments Welcomed

Tiaggo



So, you're asking CCP to give more stuff to those already playing several accounts wih plex they buy IG thx to their many ways to do billions per month with 3alts per account?

Noes, noes and triple noes.
Vaako Horizon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-10-29 18:22:14 UTC
Tiaggo wrote:
I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,

Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.

I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.

Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?

Thoughts & Comments Welcomed

Tiaggo


One can argue that free expansions are the reward you seek ???
But yes, I agree to some extent that the oldies need a gesture of good will :D
Tiaggo
Celtic Dragon Corp Inc
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#4 - 2011-10-29 18:25:37 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
Tiaggo wrote:
I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,

Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.

I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.

Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?

Thoughts & Comments Welcomed

Tiaggo



So, you're asking CCP to give more stuff to those already playing several accounts wih plex they buy IG thx to their many ways to do billions per month with 3alts per account?

Noes, noes and triple noes.


Tanya I am asking for a bit of loyalty reward, not an "I win button"

All I am saying is that if i let my subs expire for a month or so I get an offer of 5 free days? So how about offering me 5 free days for every 3 months subs paid?

Its a thank you for continued support

Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-10-29 18:27:35 UTC
Vaako Horizon wrote:
Tiaggo wrote:
I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,

Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.

I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.

Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?

Thoughts & Comments Welcomed

Tiaggo


One can argue that free expansions are the reward you seek ???
But yes, I agree to some extent that the oldies need a gesture of good will :D


free expansions
Free AUR (yay, right? rite? :|)
vastly more SP
the list goes on. And really, CCP isn't unique at ALL in business. Just about every company offers incentives to new customers that they don't to existing ones.
Tiaggo
Celtic Dragon Corp Inc
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#6 - 2011-10-29 18:33:15 UTC
Feligast wrote:
Vaako Horizon wrote:
Tiaggo wrote:
I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,

Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.

I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.

Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?

Thoughts & Comments Welcomed

Tiaggo


One can argue that free expansions are the reward you seek ???
But yes, I agree to some extent that the oldies need a gesture of good will :D


free expansions
Free AUR (yay, right? rite? :|)
vastly more SP
the list goes on. And really, CCP isn't unique at ALL in business. Just about every company offers incentives to new customers that they don't to existing ones.



Aur is something I guess, but the best companys out there are the ones the reward customer loyalty. If CCP never lost a customer whould they really need to try so hard to find new ones? All I am saying is that it is much harder to attract new business, so trying to reward the loyal customers can sometimes be worth much more than a new subscriber?
Taint
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-10-29 18:33:57 UTC
Vaako Horizon wrote:
Tiaggo wrote:
I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,

Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.

I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.

Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?

Thoughts & Comments Welcomed

Tiaggo


One can argue that free expansions are the reward you seek ???
But yes, I agree to some extent that the oldies need a gesture of good will :D



should only be 2003 acounts then :P
Trainwreck McGee
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-10-29 18:36:05 UTC
suck it up butter cup welcome to how things have been done for decades in our "free" market.

CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool

Tiaggo
Celtic Dragon Corp Inc
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#9 - 2011-10-29 18:41:37 UTC
Well if thats the case can I at least have a snow ball launcher and some snowballs in December?? lol
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2011-10-29 18:42:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
if you are not angry enough to cancel your subs there is no reason to spend resources on accommodation of your whims.

it's stupid to pay you for stuff you have already done but I could imagine something forward-looking (similar to Blizzard's Annual WoW Pass)
Vachir Khan
Rugged Ruff and Ready
#11 - 2011-10-29 18:45:20 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
if you are not angry enough to cancel your subs there is no reason to spend resources on accommodation of your whims.


As harsh as it sounds, it's truth.
Tiaggo
Celtic Dragon Corp Inc
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#12 - 2011-10-29 18:46:19 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
if you are not angry enough to cancel your subs there is no reason to spend resources on accommodation of your whims.



Angry is such a strong word

I am only looking for a "thank you for sticking with us"

I just think CCP should reward loyalty

Vaako Horizon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-10-29 18:49:50 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
if you are not angry enough to cancel your subs there is no reason to spend resources on accommodation of your whims.

it's stupid to pay you for stuff you have already done but I could imagine something forward-looking (similar to Blizzard's Annual WoW Pass)


That is something they should consider...
Nak hak
#14 - 2011-10-29 18:50:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Nak hak
Lol

CCP has a customer retention program is more like, "Don't let the door hit you on the way out. No baby,....please don't go. Bit*ch." Feel the love.

Lol

It's about freedom.

Best Regards, Nak hak

Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2011-10-29 18:51:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
Tiaggo wrote:
I just think CCP should reward loyalty

my point is that any substantial "reward" comes at a cost (to CCP) and if you have been loyal so far without any extra rewards chances are you will be loyal in the future without extra incentives.

past loyalty is not something anybody would want to pay for as it can't be taken back - but as I said maybe it would be a good idea for CCP to pay for future loyalty (especially if they expect to introduce sth that might make you want to quit).

edit:
You have to explain how it is cheaper for CCP to pay you now while you are still happy instead of waiting until your loyalty slowly wears off (which might take years) and only start spending money on you once you are on the verge of quitting EVE.

Your point sounds plausible (spend money continually on customer retention/loyalty to prevent a crisis which would lead to much higher expenses) but in practice many companies seem to assume that the opposite is the better way.
(e.g. I saved 80% on the one-year subscription of a business magazine I read by cancelling the subscription and accepting the "please come back" offer that was made to me just before my old subscription would have run out).

The problem with "loyalty" is that your whole argument starts with "I am emotionally, irrationally attached to your products and services". That's not what you want to do when haggling over a price.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-10-29 18:53:46 UTC
Tiaggo wrote:
[Tanya I am asking for a bit of loyalty reward, not an "I win button"


Well frankly, I wouldn't mind to:

-get a REAL Quafe T-shirt, get out take some drinks and hull tank some nerd Eve chicks !

-THA mug with boobies tattoo "Eve" on right one and "Is Real" On the other one, I'd use it every day !

-sticker with "Hull tanking inside, you can't test", I'd put one in my car and on my motorcycle !

Some ideas but I wouldn't like something in game that could by any possible mean give me some advantage just because I'm there for "x" time, unless, some sort of boosters package 3run bpc's whatever

Adunh Slavy
#17 - 2011-10-29 18:56:49 UTC
I understand where you're comming from, but you do have to consider, we usualy get a gift ship, we've been given free Aur, not that I've done anything with it, expansions are included as part of the subscription, we got to throw a revolt and had an impact.

Except for that accelerator gizmo, the gifting has been fair in my view.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

Vaako Horizon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-10-29 19:04:19 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
I understand where you're comming from, but you do have to consider, we usualy get a gift ship, we've been given free Aur, not that I've done anything with it, expansions are included as part of the subscription, we got to throw a revolt and had an impact.

Except for that accelerator gizmo, the gifting has been fair in my view.


Those free ships you are talking about? have you ever used them at all? :D
I still have all mine... in the corp hangar where I wish for someone to steal them :D
Bobbith
No Fish
#19 - 2011-10-29 19:21:27 UTC
Most other services which offer freebies to new customers will do the same for existing customers, you just need to make a phone call and threaten to switch providers. Perhaps if you phone customer support and tell them you're going to switch to playing wow you might get a free month?
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#20 - 2011-10-29 20:09:13 UTC
Feligast wrote:
Vaako Horizon wrote:
Tiaggo wrote:
I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,

Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.

I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.

Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?

Thoughts & Comments Welcomed

Tiaggo


One can argue that free expansions are the reward you seek ???
But yes, I agree to some extent that the oldies need a gesture of good will :D


free expansions
Free AUR (yay, right? rite? :|)
vastly more SP
the list goes on. And really, CCP isn't unique at ALL in business. Just about every company offers incentives to new customers that they don't to existing ones.


lets not forget the free ships over te last 2 years and the quafe zero.

I think the OP is looking for his hand knitted nad warmers
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