EVE General Discussion

Many people want to say these games are "addictive" and a social problem. It is interesting that so many players want to throw blame that way.

For myself, I often spend too much time screwing around, whether its Eve, or youtube, or pen and paper gaming, or brewing / drinking beer, or sailing, or riding my 4 wheeler, or going for rwalks, or cooking...the list goes on and on.

Had I knuckled down and worked hard at money making I would be quite wealthy. As it is, we make our bills and I have some money in the bank, and I have a great family and plenty of time to screw around =-)

Honestly we will all be 6 feet under before you know it =-) and I know so many people with real problems that we in Eve don't have to face so much; loneliness, cancer, legal problems to do with drunk driving, divorce, tax trouble. Spending time at ones computer playing Eve probably lowers ones risk for all of those difficulties.

Maybe it could be said that we have an anti-addiction to responsibility and grown up behavior rather than an addiction to video games.

Winning to me in Eve is just being able to log in with the knowledge that I can just relax and enjoy the scenery because my projects are underway and my wallet has enough ISK to allow me to do whatever I want on top of that.

I'd say you win at EvE either by becoming ludicrously wealthy, the top-man of a large Sov-holding Alliance, or by becoming renowned by lots of the community (In a positive way!).

Though EvE, much like life itself, doesn't really have a win point. It's just the fun stuff you get upto between the beginning and the end.

this :)

Winning EVE means you've added it to your resume.

-Example of an 'Other Interests' Resume Section-

I run marathons.

I have a Titan alt.

I know CPR.

I'm a Black Member on Kugu.

It seems that most of the seemingly fundamental questions regarding Eve are the one's without any real strait answers...i.e., best ship for l4's, best fit for , how much is "too-risky" to carry in a freighter, what's the funnest thing to do in Eve, what's the dullest, so on and so on.

Personally, it's looking back at when you first started and realizing that you're glad you stuck with it because it's still a blast, has its "WTF" moments, and still suprises the hell out of you from time to time as well.

When you have accomplished your strategic or tactical objective.
When you have prevented your opponents from accomplishing theirs.
When you have done enough to give yourself another chance later at accomplishing or thwarting.
When you come out of a fight still in your ship.
When you come out of a fight still in your pod.
When you kill a greater proportion of their fleet than they have of yours.
When you kill more of their ships than they have of yours.
When you more ISK worth of their ships than they killed of yours (including when they lost a few T2 drones and you lost a frigate).
When you manage to kill something before going down in an uneven fight.
When you manage to get a kill on that guy who shot you when you accidentally found yourself in lowsec on the third day of your trial.
When you manage to escape a fight which would have been disadvantageous.
When you manage to drive off an enemy by the mere threat of force (see above).
When you hold the field at the apparent end of hostilities.
When you chose the right time to retreat.
When you find that the market orders which have completed during the fight more than cover your losses.

There are almost as many different ways to "win" in EVE as there are ships to "win" in... though my favourite is still:
When you bring a Blackbird (not a Falcon) back from more than one op where you took damage and got jams.

I take back what i said.

It's not about enjoying the game. It's about how unreasonably emotional you can make a stupid person be. For example, you win EVE when people mention your name in General discussion posts about topics that have nothing to do with you, like how people are so butt hurt by your actions or awesomeness that that make EVERYTHING about you.

In other words, the only people who have ever won EVE are Mittens and James 315....and null sec lol

When you are the richest player in EVE, you hold all nullsec sov personally with a holder alliance of only your alts, and you can multibox a fleet so huge that it can defeat the combined forces of every other player in EVE.

But it's not gonna happen, not for anyone. You don't win at EVE, just some people lose harder than others. The current person who is "losing least" is Somer. If he had 10 times the isk he does, and the inclination, he could make a serious bid at achieving the goal outlined above and winning EVE>