EVE General Discussion

Can you please name a few of these HI SEC lords & thier titles?
(eg: Shaddo NULL SEC lord of Thunderdome™, The Mittani NULL SEC lord of TECH, Montolio the NULL SEC lord of NEO & blobs etc...)

I wouldn't be the HI SEC lord of bitterness... I'd be the Forum lord of bitterness while you & a few Goons could be called the Forum lords of hyprocacy

Funnily enough, when I was watching Batman Begins with my son last night... the way the Goons are handling things, very much resembles the League of Shadows.

Just sayin.

OK since we're playing Thunderdome™ does this mean Master/Blaster where Shaddo is the dwarf Master & Mittans is the mental midget/physical giant named Blaster or the other way around?!?!?!... of course there's no denial Montrolio isTina Turner

Who runs EVE err I mean barter town???

So, since you don't seem to like the idea of the Nullsec empires blowing up trillions of ISK for poops and giggles, why are you complaining about it on the forums instead of making preparations to disrupt them?

There are literally no game mechanic barriers to totally disrupting the Thunderdome you've been moaning about for the past few weeks. Or, if your issue is that moons aren't going to be in play, take them while their owners are distracted.

Are you saying to take on the largest Empires of EVE you need an Army. Why can't you be like Rambo and solo World War II? CCP Fix!

Problem solved. CCP close the thread, people who want Tech start recruiting.

I simply said that, unlike the case in HS, there are exactly zero game mechanical obstacles to disrupting their thunderdome if you don't like it.


Logistics are exactly as hard for them as they would be for you (actually easier for you, since you probably don't need to run battleship fleets). The fact that they're better at it is not a game mechanical obstacle.

Supers and Titans are available on the open market. You have access to the exact same tools they have to project power. The fact that they're better at it is not a game mechanical obstacle.


There are no game mechanical obstacles to disrupting the thunderdome or taking the Tech moons (which, incidentally, are worth less per hr than Ice mining). There are simply players in your way. Being unable to overcome player generated obstacles is not the game's fault.*

*Before Darth tries to says something about this: Thunderdome is not a reaction to being unable to power through the (game mechanical) giant ****-berry pie that is Sov grinding, it's being unwilling to bury your face in it when the pie-eating contest prize is getting to eat a septic tank** (and when you finish that, they give you a breath mint***).

** The hundreds of millions of EHP of Sov (and PI) structures left over after a bloc collapses and the war is "won".

***You get to own Sov... that holds no advantage over what you already have... and you have to bulk up your renter wing to pay the bills on it, which means you have to deal with renters... hooray!

It would seem that OP has absolutely no concept of what actually happens in a sov war under the current sov system and what makes most people with half a mind and some experience shutter at the whole idea. I'll outline the events very shortly and terribly in this manner:

1. Lets say the two largest coalitions currently in the game (CFC, HBC just for example) declare open sov war upon one another.

2. The two proceed to invade one another in a series of stalemates and structure grinding that continues for YEARS, not weeks, not months, YEARS. The size and disposition of the established powers under the current system would likely see a more drawn out conflict that would continue perpetually without end. Neither side would never actually manage to gain the upper hand for any significant amount of time long enough to produce more than a superficial impact.

3. Eventually after a great deal of time and little if any progress made, both sides finally burn out and quit eve because of the whole horrible ordeal.

4. This massive drop in subscriptions from what is likely to be almost 1/3rd of eve's player base proceeds to send the game in downward spiral due to what is probably more than half of the user generated content leaving the game.

5. After hemorrhaging subscriptions for a time eve finally dies as the sandbox cannot cope with such an extreme stress on the system.

Granted this scenario in particular may not be what would actually occur on the specifics, but the horrid process of the whole thing is probably fairly close.

Simply "Fiddling with tech" will not solve this problem as it is merely a symptom of the larger issue at the core design of the sov system. As it stands, the sov system, as well as a majority of the space in null, needs to be redesigned from the ground up to fix the numerous standing issues on how to encourage new blood in null as well as how to make large scale bloc wars actually damn fun instead of an eye clawing nightmare.

TL:DR : OP has no clue wtf hes talking about; fix the problem, not the symptoms

translation: i have nothing to say but i need to do it!



to keep is simple: killing bears of friendly alliance is almost never the sign of war or conflict. Sometime alliances even reset standings to allow free roams inside their territory. Like it was in Delve/Querious in the middle of 2012.