EVE General Discussion

wow, 18 responses, and 5 of them have to do with leaving Eve to win. lol, maybe I need to throw my comp away!

Don't let the nice spring weather fool you! Eve is the best way to spend your spare time!

=-) All right maybe it isn't. I play too much myself. But its soooo much fun. I can't stop thinking about it. Even when
I'm not playing.

As a nearly ten year bittervet, I can tell you that the only way to win is to not play the game.


I've won EVE a number of times, and lost it even more.

I've quit several times when the game got too boring, and I'm considering doing it again....
I've let three of my six accounts go inactive over the past few months, and can't find a reason to resub them. The game has become stale, boring, and full of people that think hate is a sport.
I've had some very good times in this game, made some good friends, but most of the smart ones have all left the game, recognizing it for what it is. CCP is interested in taking your money, and doing the least amount of work for it. They haven't done an "Expansion" in years, just updates, trying to fix mechanics that they let go since the game started. CCP has been taken over by the fluff and mirrors crowd, where shiny ships and useless lines in the sky == cutting edge gameplay....

I've for years argued the EVE needs a Dynamic universe, where things are always happening, moving, changing.

The same dumb missions, over and over...No randomization.

Incursions should mean something, and get serious if they aren't fought and killed in a timely manner.

Corps and Alliance: Require an exponentially increasing fee for setting people blue.

0.0, make it dangerous space....Make the rats bigger and badder, camping stations, gates, using bubbles, make them a force to be reckoned with, rather than a simple farming commodity. If they aren't fought, they take over everything, including stations.
Increase the value of payouts to matc the new rats.

Random events like Supernovas that actually change the landscape of the game. Blowing up a system, wrecking gates, requiring whoever owns stations in the system to rebuild them. Perhaps have a week of lawlessness in system while Concord reforms a battle group. When the stations blow, debris, cans and ships are blown out into the system, waiting for scanners to find.

This is EVE, it's supposed to be a darker world, but after ten years, it seems to be heading towards fluff and ponies, which really doesn't interest me....

The door opens?

Winning EVE is simple.

First you become friends with practically everyone. Then you "conquer" the universe unopposed. Finally you complain about SOV and everything about highsec.

Killboard green, Op success?

That would mean something if it could not be completely faked.

I beat eve a long time ago.

You won't see it coming

Winners do it differently than losers.

If you are looking at the related kills type battle reports from eve kill they are virtually always a confused mass of data. For whatever reason it always seems to put half of the folks on the wrong side of the battle before calculating isk and ships lost. There are some other sites folks are using now which allow you to take the data from that kill mail and manually move folks over to the side they belong on and then calculate isk and ships lost.

As for determining who won or who lost it is sometimes difficult. One side may get more kills in numbers and the other side might get more isk destroyed. That happens quite a lot. Generally I think most folks would go with the who destroyed more isk number but i guess it kind of depends on the difference. If its not a substantial difference then the numbers would look more impressive. In the end the kill board wont show the underlying reason for the fight. One side might be defending a pos, station or sovereignty. That wont show on the kill report. The defender may claim victory by winning that goal even though they lost more isk and ships. Often, however, the other side only challenged that sov, pos or station in order to provoke some carebear alliance into fighting. Determining a winner isnt always an easy proposition.