EVE General Discussion

Eve Online is 10 years old. I'm amazed that there are still this many people who are clueless to the non-consentual PvP aspect of the game, as if paying a subscription fee somehow entitles them to be immune from it.

Sure it does.
If you get a 100M haul (i.e. half a bil after losses) once a week because the loot fairy is being a *****, that comes out to slightly less payout than mining.

If you want good hauls and little loss, you have to spend time waiting for a stupid/willing target and then hope that the Shub-Internet and the Random Number God are pleased with your latest offerings; if you want to gamble, you can go for more risky targets more often. Either way, chances are that you won't earn much.

You said that the only thing that differs is payout per unit of time. Since incursions pay more, it only makes sense to bring it down to the level of ganking.

…no, but turning those ships into valuable and viable targets is a direct result of stupidity, since it's so easy not to do it.

A fleet of alpha ships raises the cost by a factor of five, so already there do you have a legitimate defense against ganking: you can now easily ISK-tank the gankers. Oh, and there are protections against alpha as well…

Does it seem likely to anyone else that the OP bought his character? As several people have pointed out, the odds of a 4-5 year vet not knowing about high-sec ganking and yet still working up to owning a Golem worth 3b are very slim. I sometimes wonder if the the character bizarre isn't hurting more than it helps.

Putting 1 billion into the hold of a freighter means there is no profit in ganking you.

Putting 10 billion+ into the hold of a frighter make you very profitable to gank.

If you dont want to be ganked then dont be daft and stuff it full of goodies that makes you a target. The best defence is not making yourself a target. Tank your ships and limit your cargo value. Or dont and suffer the conciquences of your stupidity.

Oh, I don't know… If I tried that, it would be profitable to gank me. The bounty payout should pay for the gank ships.

Putting 10bn worth of goods in a shuttle is not stupidity?!
I think you might operate on drastically different understanding of what that word means than the rest of us…

Some people are so insular that they take no notice of what is going on around them, there's plenty of highsec dwellers who've been "playing" for a couple of years or more that are shocked and horrified to find that people can shoot at them in highsec without killrights or a wardec. Time spent in game does not equal a knowledge of game mechanics, especially if people choose to play Eve as a single player game and ignore everything beyond their particular play style.



The function of a freighter is to move bulk cargo, such as large amounts of minerals and ore that would take several trips in a normal industrial, it is not to act as a mobile safety deposit box for all your shiny stuff. If you have to move shiny stuff, use a ship that is designed for that purpose, such as a blockade runner or transport ship, or outsource your risk and pay someone such as Red Frog or PushX to do it for you, there's this thing called collateral, if your load gets exploded, you get paid, if it doesn't get exploded, you still have your stuff, either way, you win.

If someone decides to load their freighter with eleventybillion isk of stuff and it gets ganked, then it is their own fault, and as such they should accept responsibility for their own actions.

TL;DR don't put all your eggs in one basket.

ISBoxer makes all that coordination unnecessary...

Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. Its like transporting 10 billion in gold in the back of a truck with an open sided trailer through the heart of Bagdad with no armed guards.

Its that stupid.

Not in a freighter loaded to the brim and starting in Jita I imagine.

Or sailing off the coast of Somalia in a Yacht made of money, it's that stupid too.