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Paid name Change and Corp history removal?

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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#361 - 2013-03-18 17:42:49 UTC
Tiberius StarGazer wrote:
Personally, you buy the "persona" of that particular toon, his skills, history, and other useful information. It wont matter to the other people on the end of their computers that this "name" has someone different behind it, at the end of the day, that charecter is that charecter.

I would always aproach buying a toon the same way as you buy a second hand car, you vet its history, you check the servicing and make sure its road worthy. Afterall you want to make sure your not buying a stolen car or one thats been in a crash dont you?

If you dont want to play as a corporate theif, then make sure your not buying one.

Instead, I suggest that maybe the vetting ability for people either buying AND recruiting new players to their corporation be improved so that people can either

i) Check the history of their charecter before purchase or

ii) Allow other people see that the charecters ownership has changed.

However, I can imagine ii would be opened up to a whole load of abuse with people passing around the same charecter for whatever requirements they have.


Except in real life buying the wrong car doesn't often include **** gangs that stalk you across the known universe, in this way the "car buying" experience differs.

Now with 100% less Troll.
Notorious Fellon
#362 - 2013-03-18 17:43:53 UTC
Until we can lock down character transfers and prevent them from transfer to the same "PERSON" then I prefer this approach:

Don't buy tainted goods.

If the pilot never sells, or the price has to be lowered to rock-bottom due to piracy or other nonsense; good.

Crime, it is not a "career", it is a lifestyle.
Namdor
#363 - 2013-03-18 17:49:48 UTC
Without opining on the necessity or desirability of it all, it does, at least, seem a little bit weird that in a futuristic dystopian space setting, there is no seedy black market dealing in fake identities.

That is something of a staple in a lot of scifi.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#364 - 2013-03-18 17:57:55 UTC
No, No, No, and No, and some more No.

The Tears Must Flow
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#365 - 2013-03-18 18:07:44 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
Except in real life buying the wrong car doesn't often include **** gangs that stalk you across the known universe, in this way the "car buying" experience differs.

Eve has consequences.

History of the character is one consequence.

-no-

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#366 - 2013-03-18 18:16:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Terrorfrodo wrote:
How is the reputation of a character even an issue for traded characters? If you buy a known corp thief, you can always direct people to the bazaar thread where they can see that the character has changed hands. Only idiots would distrust you because you play a character that was a thief in another player's hands.

All that proves is that you paid CCP $20 in an attempt to whitewash your character's reputation.

There's no way to prove that the character did not just change accounts but did actually change owners.

(and yes, scammers actually do real or fake transfers from one of their accounts to another one to exploit gullible people such as yourself)

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mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#367 - 2013-03-18 18:18:23 UTC
Name change makes me uneasy. Aside from a feeling that having more paid services directly affect the game isn't good for Eve, there's also the issue of accountability. As it stands, there is already almost no accountability in Eve due to many players having multiple accounts and the ease of character trading. Introducing a name change will lower the bar yet again.

Corp history is something I'm ok with, mainly because people can get these monstrous 20 page lists of corps that are begging to be cut down. Still, I'd rather this service be tied to the game somehow. Be it getting standings with an intelligence corporation, manufacturing a hard to acquire single use booster, etc. I think it's really cool when even high level functions like this are tied directly to MMO worlds. Of course, I understand it's likely CCP would take the easy route and charge PLEX for it.

The only quibble I have with corp history is that API calls to corp history should always show the entire list, which means it's mainly a cosmetic change, not a way to permanently hide your character history.
Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#368 - 2013-03-18 20:06:07 UTC
IMHO when people buy characters, they buy them for their skills and not their history. I think that the removal is not real big deal. The thing people are fretting over (reputation) is easily bypassed with alt accounts and buying/selling characters. Corp thieves, awoxers, and spies can easily sell the character they did bad things on and buy a new one with the same skills or very near the same.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#369 - 2013-03-18 23:16:52 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
What's stupid about the whole lack of name change is that right now in RL I could get in my car and drive down to the courthouse and easily legally change my name (married wives do it routinely) or change the name of my business, with the caveat that my previous name is always on file.

Yet in the make-believe-world of Eve there is some sort of weird stupidity that changing a name will somehow allow players to be virtual chameleon's.... which is a stupid belief. Just put the previous alias's in the character window and make them searchable.

-1 to CCP for there pseudo-logic how about names adjustments somehow magically resolve consequences.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#370 - 2013-03-18 23:48:12 UTC
Goran Konjich wrote:
Repeating myself again:

Namechange = 2PLEX every 3 years

History = no change, always visible on char info
Old name = no change, always visible on char info

Simple.


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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#371 - 2013-03-19 00:18:57 UTC
Necro-ing threads is at least frowned upon. This topic has had a good debate, but that has now ended.
If you are realy serious in furthering this goal, I suggest you make it into a formal proposal and post it in the Feature & Ideas Discussion forum section.

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