EVE General Discussion

So ive been a carebear forever now and want to learn how to start pvping. Can anyone link me to some good sites or forum posts.

Azual Skoll has written some great articles, http://www.evealtruist.com/p/article-index.html. EVE Uni has good stuff in their wiki as well http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Category:PvP

You need EFT or pyfa to come up with fits. You need to make your own fits, otherwise you'll never understand how ships and modules work together in EVE.

Basics of PVP are simple- find a target that you believe you have a least a slight chance of winning, point him and shoot him before he gets you. Often this involves dodging people you don't want to fight, surprising your enemy when he is not ready or in an otherwise disadvantageous position, or manipulating him to engage on your terms.

Choose a limited number of ships to focus on, it makes sense to start cheap (and even later, paying more for ships and equipment yields limited benefits). Race or class doesn't matter, only how well you execute the best tactic for your chosen ship. All races have good solo ships.

You need to know your ship intimately- your speed, maneuvaribility, weapon range, tracking, damage type and how much you can tank.

Keep your hands off those orbit and approach button (only kosher for pvp in very limited situations, in most situations their stupid functional logic gets you killed) - understand transversal. It's vital in not getting killed and applying damage.

If you are not familiar with the Directional Scanner, start with that http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Directional_Scanner_Guide

I think one of the most important things is to know when to get out if things start to look bad for you.

Good luck!

Just some general tips

I'd suggest taking a frigate (Incursus) into Faction War space and checking out what other frigates are in the complexes nearby. The complexes show up on overview, so they're not hard to find. You can use Dscan on 5% to find out what's in the plex and decide beforehand if you want to engage it. A lot of gits will run away (FW is still very farmable) but sometimes you'll catch someone or get a fight.

Dscan is your tool to find out what's going on just out of sight. Keep the window open with the Local channel.

Think before you engage! Think about what the other guy is likely to be armed with, given their ship type, and go in with a plan to catch them, maximise your DPS and minimise their DPS. And take a second to breathe and think just as the shooting starts. After you die (commiserations), think about what went wrong.

As your structure approaches death, by the way, select a celestial (I always have the sun on overview) and spam the warp command. Your pod will warp out before the other player has a chance to destroy it.

Don't shoot first on a gate unless the other guy's a pirate - a frigate can't survive the security guns. You're not likely to be caught by a player on a gate. With a frigate you get to choose what you engage.

I'd also try to find a good overview setup to use - the default is no good.

There was something else important but I forgot.

To expand on that, RvB is good if you can't afford to take the faction hits that FW gives you on your PVP character. If you do join RvB, jump into the Noobfleet channel and ask for advice there. Take advantage of the Noobfleet ship replacement program if you need to, but remember that all ships are donated for people who really need it. If you want to solo, go to Nomaa (I think), and join the everlasting FFA there, or prey on the other solo pilots around the core systems.

The other option is paying for an Agony PVP class and doing that.

Otherwise just jump into whatever you choose to do to learn. I jumped in feet first to RvB and have never regretted it.

RVB or buy a shed load of rifters and go hunting

Buy a stack of cheap frigates (seriously, you dont need shiny to win PvP) find a corp thats involved in PvP such as a faction warfare corp, and then go and die... a lot.

If you dont get podded ask the guy who killed you what you did wrong. 8 times out of ten they will tell you, the rest they will tell you to **** off.

You will lose many many more ships (took me a month to get my first solo kill in FW) but after two months, I was getting a solo kill 1/2 times a week.

PvP is a calculated gamble, the trick is to learn how to calculate your chances.

Mission flipping. Is that just flying into a guy's mission, stealing his loot and hoping he'll fire at you?

if this is your main you should ask in your NPC corp chat if there are any PvP events going on for a try out. CAS members run null roams periodically and they can be a lot of fun and totally noob friendly. you just need a headset so you can hear the FC and bring one ship. they'll replace your losses.

Hit the test server and pvp till your eyes bleed. If you need further help drop me a mail and I will explain in more detail. GL

Then grab a cheap frigate you like the look of and go and attack everything. Faction warfare and RvB are great for this.