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A message for all Caldari Capsuleers

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Knoot Enderas
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-17 16:27:30 UTC
Citizen-Capsuleers!

The state of our State is dire. Internal disputes are driving loyal citizens apart. Mothers are grieving for the loss of their sons and daughters after Federal forces turned their guns on them. Worse, our Home is once again under attack by the Gallente, and the Caldari Navy has mobilized to reinforce the border in response to the Federal Navy's supposed 'Training Exercises'.

In such times, we must hold to every source of strength.

The Amarr Empire has added to the strength of the State since its inception. Without first contact with the Amarr Empire, the Federation would never have granted us the independence that should have been ours by right. Throughout history, the Amarr Empire has continued to be the indispensable counterbalance to Federal aggression. With the largest Navy in the cluster and an Empress who has proven her mettle and her mercy, the Amarr Empire continues to be that counterbalance today.

As we face these trying times together, let us continue to honour our Amarr allies in any way we can. Let us stand with them in war as they have stood with us. And let us resolve to only make peace together, as allies whose fates remain inextricably bound for the entire course of this campaign. As the scriptures say:

    "Face the enemy as a solid wall
    For faith is your armour
    And through it, the enemy will find no breach"

    - The Scriptures, Amarr Askura 10:3
Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
#2 - 2013-03-17 16:57:45 UTC
Complete tripe.

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Knoot Enderas
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-03-17 17:05:09 UTC
It is regrettable that you feel that way, Lavius-haan. I'd hoped that a fellow liberal would not take such a narrow view of the world. In times such as these, the importance of our alliance should not be underestimated.
Astroyka
IXXAXAAR
#4 - 2013-03-17 17:10:44 UTC
I always new the State were Amarr's bitches. This pretty much proves it.

To paraphrase the above:

"The Amarr are so wonderful, they are our saviours, we would be lost without them, please don't **** them off and force them to leave us to the cruel barbarians of New Eden. Go shed your blood for Amarr, not for the State. [insert obligatory scripture quote here]"

Astroyka

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Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
#5 - 2013-03-17 17:14:04 UTC
Oh, I have nothing against your message. My only issue with the content of your message is the fact that the alliance with the Amarr is only necessary, not wanted.


My issue rests in the fact that such patriotic drivel as this will not assuage current tensions. Shame on me for being so narrow-minded, and realizing the truth.

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Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#6 - 2013-03-17 17:16:06 UTC
Your Home is underattack by itself, technically speaking.
Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
#7 - 2013-03-17 17:21:04 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Your Home is underattack by itself, technically speaking.

I never knew cloned mercenaries-for-hire were long-time residents of Caldari Prime.

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Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#8 - 2013-03-17 17:25:17 UTC
I wasn't talking about the clone mercenaries.
Sepherim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-03-17 17:44:24 UTC
A good message, captain Enderas.

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#10 - 2013-03-17 17:48:22 UTC
Astroyka wrote:
I always new the State were Amarr's bitches. This pretty much proves it.

To paraphrase the above:

"The Amarr are so wonderful, they are our saviours, we would be lost without them, please don't **** them off and force them to leave us to the cruel barbarians of New Eden. Go shed your blood for Amarr, not for the State. [insert obligatory scripture quote here]"


I can't hear you. The Federation teat in your mouth must be muffling your words - try removing it and maybe you'll speak more clearly.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#11 - 2013-03-17 18:39:49 UTC
It may be worth noting that the agreement with the Empire is recent on the order of within the last decade. Our war with the Federation goes back hundreds of years. The Empire, while we appreciate the help they have given us in recent times, are not the reason for our independence. They have very little to do with it.

Your loyalty to the Empire is admirable, but you step too far in crediting them for the very existence of the State. It is the strength and determination of our own people, the sweat and blood shed by our forefathers, that has won and kept our independence.

Do not disrespect those ancestors who fought and died for it by offering credit to the Amarr.

Katrina Oniseki

Knoot Enderas
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-03-17 19:06:20 UTC
Lavius-haan and Oniseki-haani,

The alliance with the Amarr Empire will continue to be necessary for as long as the Gallente Federation remains a powerful rival on our borders. Making joint cause with the Amarr Empire is therefore a historic necessity. In this cluster there are no alternatives. Who would we ally with instead? The Federation? The Minmatar? Sansa's Nation?

While our ancestors fought long and hard for their independence, it was the sheer overpowering might of the Empire that ultimately gave the Federation pause. Acknowledging this does not diminish the sacrifices they make, but rather, it places the events that occurred in their proper strategic context. It is not disrespectful to learn from the past and apply its lessons to the present.

So let us not hold our noses for our Imperial allies, but rather embrace and celebrate this alliance, which we are certainly going to need in this perilous junction of our State's existence.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#13 - 2013-03-17 19:21:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Allying with the Empire does not mean we should attribute our very freedom to their mere existance.

I suggest you take a good long look at the efforts made by your own people, your fathers, grandfathers, great grandfathers. Take a long look at those who fought and died at the hands of the Federation to earn your freedom. Go tour the mausoleums of New Caldari. Go visit the shrines of our Ancestors.

Then stand before their their resting places... look at the names... and say it again, that the Empire is the reason we are free. If you can muster the courage to do that, then perhaps I will take you seriously.

Ishuk-Raata will continue to pursue trade relations with Amarr entities as befitting our interests and needs. We will stand alongside those who make the necessary diplomatic overtures and establish mutual positive standings with us.

This does not mean we will credit them for nothing.

You are free to view Caldari history through whatever colored glasses you wish, Knoot Enderas. I will not derail this thread further by arguing it.

Good day, sir.

EDIT: Translation error fixed.

Katrina Oniseki

Knoot Enderas
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-03-17 19:34:24 UTC
Oniseki-haani,

I am a tube child and, therefore lacking parents, will sadly be unable to follow up on your suggestion. Perhaps this is a reason for our difference in perspective.
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#15 - 2013-03-17 19:35:26 UTC
Our State has always had it's internal struggles, or have you forgotten the Morning of Reasoning?

We honor our alliance with the Empire and no more than that; I am thankful for the assistance of the Amarr and give them the honor and respect worthy of a business partner. Your praise crosses this line, it is inappropriate, resembling more deification of a foreign entity. These are weak sentiments, not Caldari ones.

We will endure. We have endured worse. We will honor our bonds with the Amarr, but at the end of the struggle we shall emerge as Caldari.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.

Knoot Enderas
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-03-17 19:40:34 UTC
Nikulainen-haani,

Deification of the Empire? No. I would never go that far. Honour and respect on the other hand are richly due. Having a good relationship with our only ally does not threaten our identity as Caldari.
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#17 - 2013-03-17 19:51:17 UTC
Knoot Enderas wrote:
Nikulainen-haani,

Deification of the Empire? No. I would never go that far. Honour and respect on the other hand are richly due. Having a good relationship with our only ally does not threaten our identity as Caldari.


Then I suggest you relearn how to give respect.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.

Knoot Enderas
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-03-17 20:03:05 UTC
Nikulainen-haani,

I thought my call to "continue to honour our Amarr allies", to "stand with them in war as they have stood with us" and to "resolve to only make peace together" was respectful enough. I'm not sure what part of my missive is supposed to call for the eradication of Caldari values or deification of the Empire.
Rhiannon Dellacorte
Liberty Vanguard
#19 - 2013-03-17 20:09:05 UTC
Knoot Enderas wrote:
Oniseki-haani,

I am a tube child and, therefore lacking parents, will sadly be unable to follow up on your suggestion. Perhaps this is a reason for our difference in perspective.


It isn't.

Rules of Acquisition #261

A wealthy man can afford anything except a conscience.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#20 - 2013-03-17 20:20:13 UTC
For The Record;

The opinions expressed above are not to be considered official policy of Ishuk-Raata, it's parent corporation, or subsidiaries. They are strictly the personal opinions of registered Ishuk-Raata pilots.

Katrina Oniseki

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