Intergalactic Summit

http://dust514.com/beta/news/2013/03/the-uprising-breaking-news-jacus-roden-reveals-existence-of-cloned-mercenaries-announces-federation-purge/

As has been reported elsewhere, our beloved Federation today admitted the existence of an early generation of failed experiments into the so-called "immortal soldier" technology. These poor souls, most likely patriotic volunteers brought into shadowy secret research programs in the name of freedom and equality, deserve our respect, our empathy, and our help.

While the deeply flawed technology used in their construction, which from the news I had seen appears to have been sourced from the enigmatic Sleepers, poses a grave threat to peaceful peoples everywhere- we must not sacrifice our own humanity by destroying them like inhuman monsters. As a "survivor" of the pro-Caldari troubles on Intaki Prime and one of the few living whose memories include the early days of capsuleer technology, I can remember a time when empyreans were bedeviled by similar worries and failures. Entire legions of courageous volunteers unable to exit the pods upon which their bodies had become dependent, or worse- locked helplessly inside their bodies for the remainder of their natural lives.

I remember the controversy that capsuleer cloning brought about. The accusations of psychopathy, of inhumanity, of monstrosity. Myself, I have suffered separation from many of my colleagues and respected friends because I chose to embrace this technology, believing it to be a new path of Ida- permitting humans to grow and experience life more fully and completely without the loss of memory associated with natural and assisted Rebirth.

These soldiers are our brothers and sisters. They suffered for us, that we might better know peace and prosperity. The least we can do is to repay their sacrifice with hope for a brighter future.

I call upon President Roden and our elected leaders to show mercy and compassion to these cloned soldiers. The Sleeper affliction is not present in all of them, only the earliest experimental volunteers. I ask that a safe asylum be established for the afflicted, staffed by later generations of cloned soldiers, where we can conduct humane and publicly peer-reviewed research into a cure for the Sleeper affliction. We owe these brave patriots our assistance and love, not genocide.

Treading down the same path as the Jovians will lead us to the same conclusion, unless we can learn from their mistakes.

I'm curious as to the claim that these super-soldiers are impervious to pain. Pain is a survival instinct, the oldest and most primal of all. Remove that and you remove the instinct to survive. That hardly seems like something you'd want in a soldier... especially one that must have cost a fortune to create. A soldier that doesn't have the sense to duck would be pretty useless, I'd think.

Getting shot still hurts like hell especially with the weapons they're using are designed for anti-equipment not just anti-infantry and as powerful as those are they still do not typically never kill a clone outright. The pain is even more so as the typical adrenaline from the fear of dying is no longer there. Net result is usually a pissed off soldier when he wakes up.

Typical regular soldiers could eat up to 5-6 shots designed for anti-infantry, I have seen immortal soldiers take up to 150 bullets into them and still not go down or get back up after rebooting the nanites in their system, this is from a gun that can bullet saw a small armored jeep in half.

After taking some time to explore this issue further, I suggest that we construct this rehabilitation facility on Chelien VI. It is a barren world, with few inhabitants- though ample water is available from in-system ice deposits.

The gravity is stronger than many inhabited planets, meaning that the clone's bodies will feel more "natural" to them instead of super-powered. Furthermore, the surface temperature is reasonably warm and could be further moderated through a terraforming operation using the waste water from ice refining in the Federal Administration Information Center. This would also allow us to raise the atmospheric pressure, as the planet has sufficient gravity to maintain an air envelope.

I have been working with my family to secure funding to support the creation of this facility, this safe harbor for the brave volunteers of our Federation and other nations who seek asylum.

I have thus far secured pledges totaling 100,000,000 ISK in furtherance of this goal.

Again, I call upon President Roden to do the right thing and offer these soldiers the hope for a future free of madness and persecution.

Pain is also required to self-assess physical injury.

Look up old records for references to "Leprosy". The disease was easily curable, but often left victims without functioning skin nerves. Victims had to constantly self-examine for minor wounds to prevent infections.

Well, here it is mostly about cybernetics and less about genetic engineering and gene synthesis.

The two are rapidly getting indistinguishable from each other. Is a nanite so different from a plasmid?

But I concede your point.

You all have confused pain for suffering.

My point stands.

That Gallente attitude resulted in the Rogue Drones.

There is a reason they seize humans and make them disappear.

Foolish and naive child of ignorance and fear-haunted denial. You only wish to be human.