EVE General Discussion

Let the players who want WiS to be finished (myself included) raise money via Kickstarter so that CCP can hire external developers to finish off WiS. This way the entire playerbase can get the best of both worlds, inhouse dev's working on FiS, external dev's working on WiS.

CCP, may avoid taking this route because they think it might harm their reputation as a company but everyone knows CCP are pretty radical and innovative. Why not let us (who want WiS) help you expand on EVE by letting you hire more dev's especially for WiS.

EDIT (adding this from a later post I made): Also if CCP added to the content that could be worked on and essentially produce WiS as a side-expansion (free for EVE players ofcourse) they could garner much more money from Kickstarter as people who play games like Second Life or Habbo Hotel may donate too. Having these online-socialites in EVE would fill the peasent, servant social classes and would elevate us Capsuleers to the Cybernetic Demons we are. We could pick them up in haulers for their precious ISK and get destroyed by other players killing them permanently, we could hire them to repair our ships and pay them peanuts for their hard work. If CCP added to WiS (as specified) we wouldn't have NPC's in stations but a worker class of players who are limited to living on a space station while we roam the galaxies blowing up suns and jumping lightyears.

I say they devote the expansion to ships and space then start a Kickstarter...

...to raise more money for ships and space.

I don't care, F&I is the graveyard of all good ideas, mine deserves to stay here.

Your idea deserves to be buried under concrete.

Or--- and here's a novel idea--- someone starts a Kickstarter project to build their OWN spaceships--- or rather, walking in a spacestation-- game, and they can mold THAT game into whatever they think NEEDS to be in a spaceships space barbies game!!

Awesome idea, I know!!!

Hiring external developers to work on your internal projects isn't going to be as straightforward or as win-win as you think - you're still going to have to dedicate existing members of staff at CCP to training them in how Carbon and the rest of Eve's internals work before you set them loose on the project.

And ok, let's say you bring in enough money to get a dev team of 5 on board for 18 months: what happens after those 18 months are up and there's nobody in CCP who knows how the code works well enough to modify it and introduce any new features (this has been the sticking point on some other Eve features which has held up development for literally years)? WiS becomes just another abandoned feature gathering dust whilst the rest of the game is updated regularly? What happens if something breaks in the WiS coding that impacts other features of the game and CCP has to assign their staff to fix someone else's work, again not having full knowledge of the code or how exactly to fix it?

"Just do a kickstarter and we'll fund it ourselves" is one of those ideas that sounds good for a minute or so until you actually look at what it would involve and what the consequences would actually be.

Hopefully doll house in space is dead.

Seriously? I thought "Load Station Environment" was the first checkbox to get unticked everytime people re-installed the game.

It adds nothing to the game as it is, and it's high time it was scrapped completely and save some server load.


Surely CCP could have a poll or something for judging how many people want WiS or not, and then decide if it's worth pursuing.

I'd love to see it but only at the end of a list of other important things in the game like pos revamp, corp roles revamp, total science and industry revamp, mining revamp, navy battlecruisers, forum auto whine-eraser.

Then maybe they could spend some time and isk developing something that people aren't really bothered about.

If I want to run around to do stuff I'll play WoW

WoD has been in development for years, and has been in the works ever since the White Wolf merger. It's not going to be scrapped.

As for Incarna, a corp meeting room and a bar with a poker table is all I really want to see. Past basic socialization and corp meetings, new Incarna features probably hurt more than they add to the game. It seems like development is already most of the way towards this goal, considering the CARBON framework obviously has multi-player support that hasn't been implemented in Eve's Incarna.

I think this kickstarter idea is great. I'd pay for it personally.