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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-03-16 10:33:54 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Yes we know that they're using the SOV grind as an excuse while only saying "fix it" and giving no ideas on how to.


Great ideas have been put forward, but CCP doesn't listen. Does it surprise you when I say that CCP doesn't listen?

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#22 - 2013-03-16 10:33:57 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Malcanis wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Yes we know Powerblocs are fat and happy with broken "ATMs" that CCP promised to fix..........2 years ago


If by "happy" you mean "have been begging, pleading, yelling and just plain asking for CCP to fix them" then sure I guess.


butt Goons/CFC/HBC/PL/big bluwedoughnut doth protests toooooo much Roll
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#23 - 2013-03-16 10:34:50 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Yes we know Powerblocs are fat and happy with broken "ATMs" that CCP promised to fix..........2 years ago


If by "happy" you mean "have been begging, pleading, yelling and just plain asking for CCP to fix them" then sure I guess.

What ideas have been put forth by these people, and how to change it?

And if you say "Borders" then I hope you mean "Remove all timers."

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Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#24 - 2013-03-16 10:37:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Azami Nevinyrall
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Yes we know that they're using the SOV grind as an excuse while only saying "fix it" and giving no ideas on how to.


Great ideas have been put forward, but CCP doesn't listen. Does it surprise you when I say that CCP doesn't listen?

I've been playing this game long enough to realize that.

-edit-

I agree with both arguments here, yes SOV needs to change, if not for it "being broken," but to change things. But I personally don't think its broken, just boring as ****. I also agree with Powerblocs being happy with their current positions. Because, after all, Greed is good, right?

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-03-16 10:44:22 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Yes we know Powerblocs are fat and happy with broken "ATMs" that CCP promised to fix..........2 years ago


If by "happy" you mean "have been begging, pleading, yelling and just plain asking for CCP to fix them" then sure I guess.


butt Goons/CFC/HBC/PL/big bluwedoughnut doth protests toooooo much Roll


lmao "blue donut"

you spend too much time reading en24 trash and then accepting it as truth without verifying things that are trivial to verify like, "are the CFC and HBC actually blue"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#26 - 2013-03-16 10:46:10 UTC
Andski wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Yes we know Powerblocs are fat and happy with broken "ATMs" that CCP promised to fix..........2 years ago


If by "happy" you mean "have been begging, pleading, yelling and just plain asking for CCP to fix them" then sure I guess.


butt Goons/CFC/HBC/PL/big bluwedoughnut doth protests toooooo much Roll


lmao "blue donut"

you spend too much time reading en24 trash and then accepting it as truth without verifying things that are trivial to verify like, "are the CFC and HBC actually blue"


Remember: reality is just nullbear propaganda.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2013-03-16 10:48:30 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
What ideas have been put forth by these people, and how to change it? "


There's the rub. Solutions have been provided, but none of them are easy, hence they're ignored. I can't believe I even have to say "farms and fields" to someone else in the CFC but here we are.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#28 - 2013-03-16 10:48:35 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
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An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#29 - 2013-03-16 10:49:27 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
DarthNefarius wrote:
Andski wrote:
hisec incursion runners are upset over how things are done, refuse to do anything about it despite having hundreds of billions of isk to play with, opt to run more incursions instead



Atcually I think Andski you are corrcet in that many HISEC incursioners are siting on multi billions of ISK.... but not next to the multi trillions of TECH ISK NULL sec coalitions are sittng on....Roll That isprobably the biggest imbalance Eve is looking at, at the moment
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-03-16 10:49:35 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Andski wrote:
hisec incursion runners are upset over how things are done, refuse to do anything about it despite having hundreds of billions of isk to play with, opt to run more incursions instead


Acrually I think Andski you are corrcet in that many HISEC incursioners are siting on billion of ISK but not next to the trillions of TECH ISK NULL sec coalitions are sittng on. That isprobably the biggest imbalance Eve is looking at at the moment


entire alliances having more assets and isk than individual players is an imbalance

pubbie logic, everyone

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-03-16 10:52:04 UTC
"this massive alliance that controls massive amounts of resources via the power it can project with hundreds of individual players at a time is more wealthy than I am, this is clearly unfair CCP"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#32 - 2013-03-16 10:52:28 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Andski wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Andski wrote:
hisec incursion runners are upset over how things are done, refuse to do anything about it despite having hundreds of billions of isk to play with, opt to run more incursions instead


Acrually I think Andski you are corrcet in that many HISEC incursioners are siting on billion of ISK but not next to the trillions of TECH ISK NULL sec coalitions are sittng on. That isprobably the biggest imbalance Eve is looking at at the moment


entire alliances having more assets and isk than individual players is an imbalance

pubbie logic, everyone


this imbalance is making NULL too safe in many's eyes' watch out b4 logic pokes ya blind to reality
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-03-16 10:55:43 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
this imbalance is making NULL to safe in many's eyes' watch out b4 logic pokes ya blind to reality


0.0 is only as safe as players can make it, whether it's us smashing the **** out of anyone who tries to take our stuff or others simply not feeling inclined to poke the lion

hisec is as safe as CCP makes it, because they can't stand the thought of wretched hisec pubbies complaining about having to do any work towards an end other than their wallets and cashout potential growing

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-03-16 10:56:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Snow Axe
DarthNefarius wrote:
this imbalance is making NULL too safe in many's eyes


Ask SOLAR and friends how safe null is these days.

Or IRC.

Or -A-.

Or Nulli

Or NCdotte (they and Nulli would be interesting as they've been on both the giving and recieving end of large invasions in the past year)

Or Raiden.

Shall I go on?

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#35 - 2013-03-16 10:56:28 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Acrually I think Andski you are corrcet in that many HISEC incursioners are siting on multi billions of ISK.... but not next to the trillions of TECH ISK NULL sec coalitions are sittng on. That isprobably the biggest imbalance Eve is looking at at the moment
Seeing as how that's not an imbalance to begin with, it's probably not the biggest imbalance at all…
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-03-16 10:58:49 UTC
"CCP please nerf wardecs and suicide ganking even further, I can't stand the thought of having to defend myself since that doesn't result in wallet++"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Tora Bushido
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#37 - 2013-03-16 11:13:57 UTC
We re trying to make high sec a bit less safe....in most cases for the bigger alliances. Problem is, we don't have the nul sec isk flow. In the end its all about isks....... What?

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#38 - 2013-03-16 11:14:18 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
this imbalance is making NULL too safe in many's eyes


Ask SOLAR and friends how safe null is these days.

Or IRC.

Or -A-.

Or Nulli

Or NCdotte (they and Nulli would be interesting as they've been on both the giving and recieving end of large invasions in the past year)

Or Raiden.

Shall I go on?


Listen, how many times do I have to tell you this:

Reality is just nullbear propaganda.

Your "facts" are just dust in the wind before THE TRUTH.

Darth knows THE TRUTH, and if your stupid facts or your pointless reality contradict THE TRUTH then they're in error and THE TRUTH is still THE TRUTH.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#39 - 2013-03-16 11:15:19 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
We re trying to make high sec a bit less safe....in most cases for the bigger alliances. Problem is, we don't have the nul sec isk flow. In the end its all about isks....... What?


Do you honestly believe that there is less ISK in hi-sec than there is in 0.0?

There are individuals in hisec with more ISK than Pandemic Legion.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Dave Stark
#40 - 2013-03-16 11:15:31 UTC
how safe high sec is, is irrelevant.
it's what you can do within such a safe environment which is the issue.

i assume this is another "nerf high sec" thread?