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New dev blog: Community Communication Liaisons – The return of the volunteer moderator program

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Gaitrie
MagmaTech Industries
#61 - 2011-10-28 21:37:18 UTC
Palovana wrote:
This smells worse than my bollocks after a hard workout, IMO.

It's just an underhanded way of getting free "volunteers" to replace the paid employees you just jetcanned - much like local supermarkets now have fewer clerks and more "U-scan" stations for "speed" and "convenience", or local TV news encourages people to upload their videos for broadcast on TV.

Throw around enough buzzwords like "social engagement" and "community team" and it might make some players feel special, but those who see through the buzzwords will be alienated.

While your announcements for the Winter expansion have done much to bandage the foot you blew off with the NeX gun, this announcement combined with the potential screwing your Japanese player base is likely to take, are another round chambered and aimed at your other foot.

With the recent 20% cuts still oozing blood, this was just not the right time to announce this program, you really should have backed off on this until AFTER the next expansion.

I don't even PLAY the game for six hours most weeks anymore, why would you think I'd want to WORK for NOTHING for six hours a week for CCP, given the occurrences of last week?

Certainly there must be people within CCP who are angry at this announcement as well.


I agree here - the time to do this is not well thought of - as many people said here - people were/getting fired and you are now getting volunteers in to do their jobs... ouch - I would be pissed if it happend to me.

Don't get me wrong but what happened to all the good idea's, trends and other stuff we as community been putting on the forum ?

Goodluck on all teh people that apply or applied - lets see how long it takes before the shine comes off.

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ISD Eshtir
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#62 - 2011-10-28 21:50:18 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Eshtir
Hi folks,

I just want to clear things up so you are not confused. I got tasked with reviewing your applications. So please, dont panic if i reply to your mails. It's all good!

To go more into details about me: Im in ISD since May 2005. I have been a member and team lead for the old forum moderators way back. Im used to screen applications and i have some knowledge about forums and community interaction.

Looking forward to read your applications!

ISD Eshtir

Captain

Community Communication Liaisons

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Kuhn Arashi
State War Academy
Caldari State
#63 - 2011-10-28 22:01:36 UTC
I can understand how some people can feel that this is a method to get the same amount of work done for a cheaper operating cost.

However, I would rather them proceed with this venture rather than have to reduce their community team while also not replacing them in some capacity.
I for one encourage this, it improves player involvement and gets more people back onto the communications between players and development.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#64 - 2011-10-28 22:20:58 UTC
I guess it's time to start storing popcorn, so I'll be well stocked when the inevitable drama and accusations of misconduct start to happen. This initiative has loads of possibilities for all kinds of shananigans. I'm really looking forward to this Smile

Good luck to everyone who applies.
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#65 - 2011-10-28 22:59:56 UTC
Ingvar Angst wrote:
I have to admit this is tempting, but I don't know if I'd trust myself not to try and push my own ideas and concerns or to ignore ideas and concerns of others I'd disagree with.


Perhaps the CSM is more your calling. Big smile

Dum Spiro Spero
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#66 - 2011-10-28 23:01:33 UTC
The way I see it, a person can be part of the problem or part of the solution. I'd like to be part of the solution.

[covert double-post cover-up detected] Big smile

Dum Spiro Spero
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#67 - 2011-10-28 23:16:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Either way I decided to give it a shot. Might as well get deeper into the developer world at least.

I used to remember CCLs before what happened then?

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Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#68 - 2011-10-28 23:38:20 UTC
This will end well P
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2011-10-29 01:16:56 UTC
I would apply but then no one else wouldn't stand a chance. This is why I let Tippia have my slot...
...and really - this has nothing to do with the 100 billion isk donation I received today from anonymous source.

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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#70 - 2011-10-29 01:36:06 UTC
This could've been a good thing, but if it's going to be superwised by the current moderation team it can only end up in a mess. You guys need to fix what's broken before you add new content. That goes for FiS.. as well as the staff that don't know how to do their job, or get the relevant tools/backup/non-bias from their superiors.

Roll

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#71 - 2011-10-29 01:37:30 UTC
Yeah Tippia would probably tear me a new one if I make one mistake.

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Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2011-10-29 04:25:58 UTC
Mekia Buelle wrote:
Just when i was about to post something you deleted my comment. :(

Anyways wanted to say that i really dislike the fact that you need to "hire" somebody to do your JOB on the forums but yeah .. that's my 2 cents in all of this


LOL dont be a troll - if you dont like it, dont apply.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#73 - 2011-10-29 04:27:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Rinn
Would volunteer moderators have the power to move the endless stream of "allow training more than one character on the account" proposals to the appropriate location (and lock the threads while at it)?

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Alain Kinsella
#74 - 2011-10-29 06:18:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Alain Kinsella
Just wanted to say 'good luck' to both CCP and the new Mods.

As someone who participated in a similar program years ago (the Second Life 'Resident Moderators' aka ResMods), I am almost assured that it will be rocky during the first months. I strongly suggest that CCP keep in close touch with the first Mods not just as a watchdog, but also as moral support. Trust me, they'll need it.

As for the question about 'specializing in one section,' that happened with us too. One liked to work on General Discussion (that forum's equiv to CAOD/OOPE) and I tended to look over Sales, Scripting, and Building sections.

[Quick Edit - Navigator, you guys need someone like Torley. Seriously. Bear ]

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Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#75 - 2011-10-29 11:10:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyktor Abyss
Fire professionals.

Hire monkeys.

Pay peanuts.

Profit.

- Sad days indeed ahead for the forums.
Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus
#76 - 2011-10-29 11:59:10 UTC
I too, dream of being a kapo at night.
Aineko Macx
#77 - 2011-10-29 12:35:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Aineko Macx
I am well qualified for the job, am fluent in 3 languages (2 of which were asked for), and I've run a medium sized forum (~2k members) for a couple of years as admin in the past. And even though I do enough underpaid work at my day job, I'd be willing to volunteer, if it wasn't for the fact that I'm much too disappointed and critical of CCP. I won't forfeit the ability to poke CCP whenever it is due.

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Meldgaard
Weapons dealers INC
#78 - 2011-10-29 12:42:16 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Mekia Buelle wrote:
Just when i was about to post something you deleted my comment. :(

Anyways wanted to say that i really dislike the fact that you need to "hire" somebody to do your JOB on the forums but yeah .. that's my 2 cents in all of this

Uhh... that's what companies usually do. They hire people. To do jobs.


But normally they pay for the work.

And did ccp not just fire the people normally doing this?... It look like CCP never change.
Meldgaard
Weapons dealers INC
#79 - 2011-10-29 12:54:27 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Chribba wrote:
Intersting... Big smile

Best of luck to all future mods, may you not lock my Veldspar threads lol

and edit/oh @CCP, will these new Mods be able to see alts on accounts turning this into a spy heaven?


Negative.


Will it be clear that posts edited by a STAR are edited?
Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#80 - 2011-10-29 13:39:20 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Would volunteer moderators have the power to move the endless stream of "allow training more than one character on the account" proposals to the appropriate location (and lock the threads while at it)?


On the F&I forum yes cos there is a rule there saying don't posted repeated threads about topics already been discussed, instead add to the old topic Twisted

No-one ever obeys it but I am fairly sure I remember reading it when I first looked at that forum years ago (unless it is gone or changed since then) and wow am I shocked that I remember the wierdist things P

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I won't forfeit the ability to poke CCP whenever it is due.


Any reason you would have to? So long as you aren't just posting crap and are been reasonable I wouldn't think that would be a problem, its not like you can only post pro-ccp propaganda if you join! At least not that I've been told ;)

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