Intergalactic Summit

The Federal Navy would've been better off fighting side-by-side with Caldari Navy against these cloned soldiers, rather than destroying an intervention force which they now admit was justified in its actions!

If the Caldari had asked for help that may have happened. But no, they just barged into Gallente space as though it was their own.

Lest anyone accuses me of hypocrisy, I am all for placing some limits on Capsuleer activity. The rampant piracy orchestrated by Capsuleer pilots alone is a powerful argument for adding a kill switch to capsules. The mental instability of clones outfitted with this new technology is a good enough reason for reigning it in.

Mr. Athena, it is regrettable that the Federation has come to distrust the State to such a degree that it cannot even phantom cooperation against a mutual threat. This border incident should be a wake-up call to all men and women of good will who still desire to have an honourable peace.

Worst decision the CRC ever made was letting these things talk on the IGS.

I'll not take lessons on ethics from a True Slave.

All I aspire to is equality before the law. Baseliners may be judged for their crimes and held accountable for their actions. A baseliner who grabs a gun and goes on a killing spree is will be put down by security like a rabied slaver hound, and rightly so. Clones should not be an exception, whether they are fighting in space or fighting on the ground.

Oh look at that, we do agree!

So as long as clones are not going to be given any exception, when shall we start implanting the killswitch in your head, Mister Clone? Or have you decided not to go that route?

What about the exception the Empires seem to be making? Some clone soldiers are bad, so wipe them all out? That sounds like a massive exception to me. Capsuleers create all sorts of havoc but yet the Empires do not wipe out their favorite tool. Anyone who is not opposing this wholesale slaughter of ground based clone soldiers is at best pushing a double standard and at worst a soul dead monstrosity.

You all are missing the forest for the trees.

Generation one from wormhole tech, uncontrollable results.

Generation two reverse-engineered by our dear Empires. A measure of control and continued use.

If the Caldari had done anything to show the Charon was a mutual threat, there may have been cooperation. The way it looked at the time was the Caldari were chancing a freighter that could have been engaging in legitimate commerce. Irrelevant of their intentions, they were behaving like pirates and were treated as such.

Easy answer. The majority of the people living in one of the big four are fanatical and ignorant sheep that calmly accept whatever their leaders say as the truth and blindly follow their government's commands. The Caldari do it under some pretense of a greater good and ultimate final goal, the Ammar interpret it as God's will, the Minimatar, out of revenge and spite for their oppressors, and the Gallente simply because their hedonism has consumed their minds.

Regarding these mercenaries, I'm not a fan of them. My limited interactions with these new comers were regrettable. Their "mortality" has gotten to their heads and are very arrogant and rude in local system communications. There are plenty of asshats in this galaxy and it seems that a bunch of them have figured out a way to be asshats for all eternity.

I hate to generalize an entire group of people, but I honestly feel that these soldiers are less like brave men and women, and more like children and teenagers who just found a new toy.

I'm not calling for their extermination, but I can't blame the people that do.

While the origin of the technology is hardly surprising, I think most of us have been suspecting as much for a long while now, I find it interesting someone actually came out and admitted to it. Also not surprised, considering the origin, it all went wrong. The Sleeper civilization is still in many ways far beyond us technologically and things going badly wrong when they try to integrate into ours it is hardly to be unexpected. When Jove gave us the Capsule we encountered plenty of problems as well. One would have thought they'd have learned from that before employing the technology en mass. But of course now we have to deal with the consequences.

I can't help but wonder though.

What kind of salvage are we talking about here? Doesn't seem likely it came from the Sleeper drones, so where did they find it? Seems a rather vague way of putting it considering how open Roden is being about what is happening.