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Change toon name :)

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Zeta Vulcana
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-03-14 19:36:20 UTC

Half baked idea thrown for brainwriting:

Allow one to change his name.
Should be backed up (come together with):
- specific price for name change (could be rank and/or LP + ISK with specific NPC)
- same corp to be able to have agents like locator agents to give you history - previous name - previous 2 names - previous 5 names - full history.

Now start commenting ;)

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-03-14 19:41:06 UTC
Zeta Vulcana wrote:

Half baked idea thrown for brainwriting:

Allow one to change his name.
Should be backed up (come together with):
- specific price for name change (could be rank and/or LP + ISK with specific NPC)
- same corp to be able to have agents like locator agents to give you history - previous name - previous 2 names - previous 5 names - full history.

Now start commenting ;)



shouldn't need to use any game mechanic to find a toon's history. Want to change the name, okay... but a quick show info and I see every past name. Also, if you change names, my contacts auto update to show the new name, along with maintaining the same standing. It is the toon, not the name, I watch listed and set standings to.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-03-14 19:44:08 UTC
Zeta Vulcana wrote:


Now start commenting ;)



You really don't want that to happen.

This gets brought up quite a bit. CCP believes that the character's name is part of the online reputation, and that changing it would diminish the power of building (or destroying) that reputation, so they aren't likely to change it.

About half the player agrees with CCP. Roughly half does not.

Both sides are about to land on this thread and troll you into a semi-conscious state of partial dementia.

You have been warned.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

Zeta Vulcana
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-03-14 19:46:05 UTC

I was thinking that as long as you have the history, one interested in finding your past/reputation would have the possibility to do research, one that is not interested wouldn't care anyway.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#5 - 2013-03-14 19:55:32 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Zeta Vulcana wrote:


Now start commenting ;)



You really don't want that to happen.

This gets brought up quite a bit. CCP believes that the character's name is part of the online reputation, and that changing it would diminish the power of building (or destroying) that reputation, so they aren't likely to change it.

About half the player agrees with CCP. Roughly half does not.

Both sides are about to land on this thread and troll you into a semi-conscious state of partial dementia.

You have been warned.
You know what got me the most? TOON. Straight

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Sinigr Shadowsong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-03-14 19:58:45 UTC
I like this idea. I think that this should be something on player level and on character level though. Sometimes you might to start dislike your toon's name there are no ways to work around this. I suppose this feature should have following propertys:

1. Real money cost. A PLEX or two should be sufficient.
2. At least a month cooldown.
3. Old character name(s) should be viewable through character history.
4. Old nasme is reserved. You can add contact or block a character by both his/her new and old names.
5. Character - associated API keys continue to work.
=====
6. [Questinable] There should probably be 2 types of a names:
a) A name that character was created with. it is open for everyone in character's Bio.
b) A name that character currently possess. This name is shown in char channels, foruns etc.
You don't need to know any names in between because you can always track a character by "birth name".
Zeta Vulcana
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-03-14 20:04:52 UTC
Sinigr Shadowsong wrote:

4. Old name is reserved. ".


This puzzles me a bit.

If name is reserved one might just change name to block some names - not sure if good/bad
If name is not reserved might be very difficult to find real person in a specific moment in time that was using a name - I assume you will not be able to have same name twice in same time.

Interesting points. Thank you.
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#8 - 2013-03-14 20:59:29 UTC
Mag's wrote:
You know what got me the most? TOON. Straight

I can relate.

It feels like all the time and effort put into making a precision character, with abilities and resources prepared so they can go out and represent you... is diminished.

You go to all that trouble, the toon label gets thrown out, and you look for a looney toon character swinging a rubber chicken instead.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#9 - 2013-03-14 21:16:57 UTC
No.

Names have consequences.

/thread.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-03-14 21:17:16 UTC
Name changing is fine as long as we can keep history of prior names, copr history ect ect. If this is readily avaiable in character info, I'd say yes to name changes.

"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB

Mag's
Azn Empire
#11 - 2013-03-14 23:06:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Nikk Narrel wrote:
Mag's wrote:
You know what got me the most? TOON. Straight

I can relate.

It feels like all the time and effort put into making a precision character, with abilities and resources prepared so they can go out and represent you... is diminished.

You go to all that trouble, the toon label gets thrown out, and you look for a looney toon character swinging a rubber chicken instead.


Foghorn Leghorn wrote:
I say boy, I say boy. Don't be calling me a Chicken, I'm a Rooster.

LolLol

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Safdrof Uta
VELOCIRAPTORS EATING GRILLED CHEESE SANDWICH
The Burning Contingent Alliance
#12 - 2013-03-15 05:31:21 UTC
No.
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#13 - 2013-03-15 07:27:28 UTC
No.

You do your bed and then you sleep in it. EVE is all about results of your actions. Granted, easily circumenvented by the use of alts but currently at least the one characters you used for crap gets "ruined" by its reputation.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#14 - 2013-03-15 10:02:07 UTC
OMG NO,

With your suggestion, whenever i see someone in local with a name I don't know, I have to look in their Bio to see if they used to have a name i recognize!!!


Name changes in EVE is a bad idea.....

Simpy to whitewash bad reputations or pander to those that buy characters.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Velicitia
XS Tech
#15 - 2013-03-15 12:26:40 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
No.


/thread.


FYPBlink

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Anthar Thebess
#16 - 2013-03-15 12:40:53 UTC
I think the "change name" should be obligatory when you buy a char, or at least there should be information in the corp history.
That this char was sold and when.
Azrael Dinn
Imperial Mechanics
#17 - 2013-03-15 12:42:48 UTC
i agree with this one.

If you want to change your name why not. It's your choice and your character and you can do what you want with it. Tough there has to be a info on the characted so you can see the past names. Otherwise pirating, backstabbing, stealing etc would become too easy for the players who like to do it.

so +1

After centuries of debating and justifying... Break Cloaks tm

StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#18 - 2013-03-15 12:49:13 UTC
No.

What Jint Hikaru said.
Notorious Fellon
#19 - 2013-03-15 14:51:29 UTC
Name changes: cost is = 10X your current bounty + 1 billion. Bounty remains, but the "cost" is paid out to those who placed the bounty on your head (10X original bounty).

The 1 billion is claimed by Concorde, for having to update their records.

Crime, it is not a "career", it is a lifestyle.

Zeta Vulcana
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-03-17 10:44:33 UTC
Notorious Fellon wrote:
Name changes: cost is = 10X your current bounty + 1 billion. Bounty remains, but the "cost" is paid out to those who placed the bounty on your head (10X original bounty).

The 1 billion is claimed by Concorde, for having to update their records.


This would be interesting. :)

Based on comments until now, I still see more reasons to have this change name functionality than not to have it.
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