EVE General Discussion

Ok, let's do it like this- I'll say that Gallente is the best and others are lol.

Then you go off and train some Gal blaster stuff half-assedly, come back in a month and read the post below that says Lollente is fail, train Amarr ships of win.

Then we can all laugh at you for being so gullible and not making up your own mind.

Oh FFS...

It's fine. Minmatar are fine. Every race has split weapon platforms to some degree. Minmatar have projectile ships and missile ships. Caldari have missile ships and hybrid ships. Gallente have hybrid ships and drone ships. Amarr have laser ships, drone ships, and missile ships.

You're welcome to chase the flavor of the month, but there's a really good chance that by the time you've trained into it, a new flavor of the month will have appeared. Train for what you want to fly, all races have perfectly capable ships.

It's all up to your own playstyle, truthfully. I can give you pvp fits for any race you want. Certain races excel in certain places, here's the lowdown:

Minmatar - Great for smaller fleet things, these guys are typically fast and able to keep at range and usually have a couple utility slots on them (for energy neuts/nos, etc.). Minmatar are certainly not outdated, I still fly a ton of their ships.

Gallente - Hands down the best dps boats in the game are the gallente. The only problem is getting close enough to your enemy to actually apply it. They recently got a buff which makes their speed less of a problem (Armor honeycombing reduces mass, ergo increases speed) but you still need to be point blank. Like a fat kid sitting on your chest and punching you in the face, as long as you stay away from him he can't get you.

Caldari - Pretty decent all around. Ok-ish dps (missiles aren't terrific dps, but they never miss as long as they're in range), decent speed (Shield tank means you can put speed mods in the low slots) and Ok tank as well (See: shield tanking mids). I dont personlly fly caldari very much because I'm just too used to turrets, but I know a lot of people who do. Nano caracals can be beastly.

Amarr - My personal favorite. Big armor tank, but less dps than most others. Lasers are the "missile launchers" of the turret world. Why I like them? Lasers have better tracking than most turrets, coupled with the fact you can INSTANTLY switch out crystals to instantly increase/reduce the range you can shoot at. Have killed many people that thought they were out of my range this way.



So, Just pick a playstyle you like. If you think you'd like missiles, you can make it work just fine. Don't listen to the people who go "This whole race sucks" because they're just being idiots. Any race is viable with thinking, proper tactics, and a bit of ingenuity.

Since you said you dont like EWAR/cloaking, it probably won't matter but the ECM on blackbirds/falcons are awesome. They're a good reason to train caldari if you were interested in such a thing.

As far as PVE goes, again, all races CAN do it, but Caldari typically are the best because you can do decent damage at long ranges without having to worry about switching ammo/switching turrets/anything else. You can dictate what damage type you do against the NPC's because of different missile types, which counts for a lot. For example a mission raven can shoot anything in any missions with cruise missiles (He just switches out damage types). A turret boat, though, would either have to have close range guns for high dps, or long range guns to hit everything but do less dps.

Hope this helps.

For lowsec piracy, there is nothing wrong with Minmatar ships. Fast, hard-hitting, who needs a tank when you rip through your opponents EHP as if it were paper? Try to think as ships as tools for a certain application. For a hit and run job, Minmatar ships are awesome. Protracted sieges? Look at the properties of Amarr ships. While I have crosstrained a great deal by now and have tried some different ships, I keep coming back to Minmatar ships as the main ship line in my arsenal.

dont start a new character. just cross train.

Just do what I did and train it all. I can fly anything up to BS size, my gunnery is almost maxed out pre-cap, shield, armor, speed, ewar, drones, and missiles. Fly a different ship every day.

Kestrel, Hawk, Merlin, Blarpy, Hookbill, Corax, Caracal(RLML/HAM), Blackbird(ECM), Drake, Naga (Sniper), Scorpion (Fleet ECM), Rokh (Fleet Sniper), Rook/Falcon ECM, Basilisk(Logi), Tengu.

Yup confirming Caldari are indeed terrible and not viable in PvP in any form what so ever.

The question is not so much, which ship or weapon type is "top".

You have to find out, which ship fits your playstyle and become competent in flying that ship / weapon.

Thanks for the info guys, I really apprecaite all the help. I have a question, what is a good cruiser for solo/small pvp for minmatar? I hear stabber is bad but as you guys said people say whatever.

just pick a race you like the theme of best and stick to it. They all have ships that are viable for pvp.............except those stupid gallente.