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Ship Spinning is Solo Play CCP

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#21 - 2011-10-29 03:22:29 UTC
Temba Ronin wrote:
Mara i am so sorry all that fine motor skill clicking is difficult for you ....... i understand everyone is not gifted with good hand eye coordination, thank you for reminding me to be more considerate of those who are not as lucky as i am. I do not get shaky jittery hands in a game lol. tbh i did not consider that fact hats off to you for playing despite this serious handicap and to CCP for making the game more playable for the nervous types amongst us, after all your type pay your subscription just like the rest of us. So having a crowd of other players to make you feel safer ingame works quite well with the lemming err cooperative scenarios CCP dictates. No individuality unless CCP has sanctioned it is your motto i presume. PS don't be so afraid it's a game. Big smile


What forms of solo play have CCP removed from your repertoire?

Solo Player wrote:
Except for exploration and solo PVP (which I'm not entirely sure is something you can make a career of), which of those offers, you know, excitement?


Are you suggesting that the other options are only boring when done solo?
Temba Ronin
#22 - 2011-10-29 03:33:30 UTC
Your second attempt at creating a straw man to bash will not work Mara. Smile I never said CCP removed any forms of solo play from my repertoire, I just clearly stated that your arguments as written in this thread were incorrect in saying CCP had removed functionality when the ship icons replaced the hangar. you can have your own opinion but we all must share the same facts.

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Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2011-10-29 03:38:53 UTC
How about you tell us what the hell it is your after before you start pushing "strawman counter arguments" at people.

Because its quite obvious your just ranting to be ranting here...and no one has any idea what your getting at.

And I do mean quite literally... no one.

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Temba Ronin
#24 - 2011-10-29 03:50:05 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
How about you tell us what the hell it is your after before you start pushing "strawman counter arguments" at people.

Because its quite obvious your just ranting to be ranting here...and no one has any idea what your getting at.

And I do mean quite literally... no one.



Drake if you do not understand what i am talking about i can make two suggestions .... #1 reread the original post slowly and get your dictionary so you can learn the definitions of any words you don't know ..... being ignorant is nothing to be ashamed of ..... however it is a demerit to your publicly perceived intellectual capacity to berate someone because you lack the capacity to grasp a statement above your station. ...... #2 ask an adult in your home to read it an explain it to you.

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Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#25 - 2011-10-29 04:00:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Corina Jarr
Oh good grief.


The simple fact is, functionality that people were used to was removed. Whether or not there were alternate methods does not matter. Functionality was removed.

And there are a good number of players who have trouble with the right click menus, but play anyway. Don't downplay their difficulties.
Temba Ronin
#26 - 2011-10-29 04:07:06 UTC
I would not dream of arguing with someone so honest as to be a member of Spazz corp. Lol Your self identification trumps any witty reply i could think of you win!

The Best Ship In EVE Online Is "Friendship", Power To The Players!

Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#27 - 2011-10-29 04:10:55 UTC
Temba Ronin wrote:
I would not dream of arguing with someone so honest as to be a member of Spazz corp. Lol Your self identification trumps any witty reply i could think of you win!

What does the corp have a history I don't know of.

I mean sure my CEO is a little odd, but that makes those boring days waiting for someone to die outside Jita entertaining,
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#28 - 2011-10-29 04:18:45 UTC
Now onto your original post.


My view on the whole thing was a lot of people identified with their ship more than their... person. So when the ship was removed it was like they lost their character.

Another issue for some was the fail immersion (leaving the ship just to load ammo). CCP claimed (a long time ago, in this galaxy) EVE to be a persistent universe, and that universe falls apart when things like that happen (for some players).


As for completely abandoning Incarna (temporarily maybe), I didn't ask for that. Some did, others asked for a reprioritizing. Well, CCP reprioritized, and we got to where we are.


If this is in any relation to your OP, good. If not... bummer.
Temba Ronin
#29 - 2011-10-29 04:29:00 UTC
Corina your statement has everything to do with my original post. CCP completely missed that so many people identified more with their ship then their character. Seemingly as long as we could still undock and get shot at by other ships CCP thought everything was good. But players liked ship spinning. Players liked viewing their ships from every angle an it had nothing at all to do with group play so CCP did not consider the impact because they discount solo play, seemingly. I just want them to consider that solo pleasures are good in EVE not bad. Some seem to think i should be podded for saying that .... let em try! Pirate

The Best Ship In EVE Online Is "Friendship", Power To The Players!

Solo Player
#30 - 2011-10-29 16:15:01 UTC
Fine motor skills? Straw men? people identifying with ships? WTF?
Maybe I'm too tired or something, but, reading page 2 of this thread several times, I simply have no idea what you're on about. Are you sure you do?

I can comment on this, however:

Mara Rinn wrote:

Solo Player wrote:
Except for exploration and solo PVP (which I'm not entirely sure is something you can make a career of), which of those offers, you know, excitement?


Are you suggesting that the other options are only boring when done solo?


In one word: yes!
Boredom is a constant companion for a solo player in EVE, and while I cope rather well with that, many others don't or didn't. Oh, sure, there is excitement, too, from time to time, but it's a trickle, not exactly a torrent.
I'm in it mostly for the sheer promise that EVE holds, and have been since 2004. Paying for my account. Updating my trade orders and training queue. Hanging out in the noob corp channel offering advice. Trying out a new scheme to profit on the markets. Taking out a ship for a ride.
It is *mostly* boring - don't try to tell me otherwise! ;)
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#31 - 2011-10-30 21:13:56 UTC
Solo Player wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
Are you suggesting that the other options are only boring when done solo?


In one word: yes!
Boredom is a constant companion for a solo player in EVE, and while I cope rather well with that, many others don't or didn't. Oh, sure, there is excitement, too, from time to time, but it's a trickle, not exactly a torrent.


My experience with EVE has been that the things that are boring when solo also tend to be boring when in groups. It's the groups that make the game interesting: mixing with other people in an MMO is what the game is all about, after all Big smile
Solo Player
#32 - 2011-10-30 21:46:12 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:

My experience with EVE has been that the things that are boring when solo also tend to be boring when in groups. It's the groups that make the game interesting: mixing with other people in an MMO is what the game is all about, after all Big smile


That may be true for you. I tend to enjoy this MMO for other reasons.

One is for the permanence of it. What happens in EVE happens for real in a way - nobody can just reload the game, undo or unsay their mistakes. There is no other New Eden cluster to move to if I screw up in this one. For a game, that is refreshingly meaningful.

The other reason is I enjoy the life other people bring to this game, just as I can enjoy the goings-on in a crowded park downtown, even though none of the people are my friends. Now, I'm not drawn to seek them out and get to know them - I have friends already. No way I'm going to do that on the net. Some acquaintances, maybe, but I wouldn't want to feel obliged to them and I'd feel bad if they counted on me in any way.

I'm rather happy about how the latter turns out for me - lots of drama here. Not so content about the first - much of what I'd like to do there is terribly boring.
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#33 - 2011-10-31 14:03:40 UTC
Ship spinning solo play?

Pfft, yeah because Incarna was totally multiplayer play.

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SynthesisX
#34 - 2011-11-01 18:29:05 UTC
Interesting subject seems like there is no 100% right position beyond CCP should appreciate 100% of it's subscribers, solo or multiplayer. Smile
Smiling Menace
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2011-11-03 05:02:15 UTC
Think what the OP is getting at is that if CCP allow the 'solo' aspect of ship spinning (very debatable that this can even be considered as an activity as such) he wants CCP to allow more content for solo play to appease a very tiny part of the player base. No doubt I will be corrected if I have this wrong.

I will point out that this is a MMO....guess what the MM stands for? Give you a hint, solo isn't mentioned anywhere.

I have read a number of proposals on the forums of late that seem to indicate that a very small (and vocal) minority don't actually want to play EVE at all. They want their solo mining/ship building/ratting empire with no risk or PVP whatsoever. That, my friends, would no longer be EVE and you would have solo content as you would be the only one playing it.

Don't support this proposal at all.
Sephiroth Clone VII
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2011-11-03 05:34:00 UTC
the incarna release forced us into a single player resource hog that boged down the game.

Ship spinning redeams it again in allowing something other then a blank image to take the place of captain quarters.

I multibox, and my cpu is not a godbox, I can't do captains quarters on each or any account when doing so.

Whats the problem, they can fix things for a multi player game, till then, ship spin.
Temba Ronin
#37 - 2011-11-03 05:38:49 UTC
Smiling Menace wrote:
Think what the OP is getting at is that if CCP allow the 'solo' aspect of ship spinning (very debatable that this can even be considered as an activity as such) he wants CCP to allow more content for solo play to appease a very tiny part of the player base. No doubt I will be corrected if I have this wrong.

I will point out that this is a MMO....guess what the MM stands for? Give you a hint, solo isn't mentioned anywhere.

I have read a number of proposals on the forums of late that seem to indicate that a very small (and vocal) minority don't actually want to play EVE at all. They want their solo mining/ship building/ratting empire with no risk or PVP whatsoever. That, my friends, would no longer be EVE and you would have solo content as you would be the only one playing it.

Don't support this proposal at all.


goodness such a big supporter of MM ..... wonder why you are the only ( aka solo ) member of your corp? don't you play well with others? all single member corps should be banned on the basis of not being MM to stay consistent with your theme right?

Some players of EVE are not afraid to venture out into the void alone, while others need the support of numbers to do anything at all. I feel pity for those players like smiling menace who need to be in a gang all the time, safety in numbers right hero?

So if i read this correctly when players are doing missions let's say level 1 distribution they are not really playing EVE at all because they are 1 player in one ship without the need for other players to do anything but gank them. So you believe all PVE that does not take more then one player is not playing EVE at all right?

Maybe CCP should design a class of ship that takes more then one person to operate that way no one would ever not be playing the MM way! They could name it the "Herd Class" so you sheeple would feel safer.

Don't support those afraid to undock alone at all.

The Best Ship In EVE Online Is "Friendship", Power To The Players!

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