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What is the worst and most useless ship in EVE?

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Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#81 - 2013-03-13 03:06:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Destoya
Revenant is quite possibly the most pointless ship in the game. Outrageously rare, terrible stats in every way, looks absolutely horrid.

Other than that, my list would go something like this:

Kitsune (currently worse than a griffin)
Hyena (really hard to find a use for this one)
Osprey Navy Issue
Scythe Fleet Issue
Exequoror Navy Issue

Ships that are bad but not completely useless:

Leviathan (only slightly good because of the baller shield bonus)
Hel (what is having a tank)
Nidhoggur (only good for repping poses)
Phoenix (only really useful for reinforcing poses)
Eagle
Cerb
Pilgrim (these 3 are good in certain roles but see little use overall)
Deep Space Transports
Mimir (this thing is much worse than any of the other tourney ships, has a frankly embarrassing targeting range)

edit:
Forgot about cruor, succubus, ashimmu, worm, phantasm. Again not completely useless but too expensive for what their combat performance actually is.
Irya Boone
The Scope
#82 - 2013-03-13 11:10:41 UTC
1) SIN and mostly all black ops ships execpt the widow.

2)most usefull = all ship able to fit covert ops cloaking .. :)

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Camper101
State War Academy
Caldari State
#83 - 2013-03-13 11:37:00 UTC
Irya Boone wrote:
1) SIN and mostly all black ops ships execpt the widow.


It is actually exactly the other way around.

@OP: Succubus, Phantasm, Scythe Fleet, Augoror Navy and the Firetail are pretty useless atm.

And my Cruors and Ashimmus could use some loving, too :D

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Marbuel
Australian Belt Strippers
#84 - 2013-03-13 11:37:01 UTC
The Primae is vastly dysfunctional and doesn't live up to it's potential by any stretch.
Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#85 - 2013-03-13 12:00:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Satar
I'd probably have to go with the Naglfar first, just because it's so vastly overshadowed by the other races, yet takes twice aslong to train for, i don;t think even the devs know what its supposed to be, i think it tries to be versatile but just ends up being **** at everything.

It's hard to give anything t1 (sub cap) the "worst class" tag as when you consider the price, most of them have a use, things like the bellicose can still be fun and have some use for low SP pilots. So considering this id' also vote for the Munnin, it's costly, and can in no way justify it's price when compared to a Rupture!

PS - Caracal?! One of the best cruisers in game at the moment, including all the t2 ones! Admittedly Cerb is a bit redundant considering the caracal and you'd be lucky to see one out and about.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#86 - 2013-03-13 12:02:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Corey Fumimasa
The Primae was a limited edition, special release ship. It is a novelty item by design and I think it fills that role well.

Its funny though, a lot of people seem to want that type of ship. Something that was fast/tough/stealthy enough to get into low and null sec for PI would be cool. Maybe a version that got a break on orbital transfer costs.
Dave stark
#87 - 2013-03-13 12:07:59 UTC
nagal--- oh, wait.
Jensaro Koraka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#88 - 2013-03-13 13:16:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Jensaro Koraka
Shuttles. If we have to name a real ship then whatever that Minmatar ship is that still has split hardpoints. I thought CCP learned their lesson about that.

Edit: Wrong forum. This belongs in 'ships and modules'.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#89 - 2013-03-13 13:47:09 UTC
Destoya wrote:


Deep Space Transports


Does anyone actually use these?

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Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#90 - 2013-03-13 14:12:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Primary This Rifter
Nova Satar wrote:
I'd probably have to go with the Naglfar first, just because it's so vastly overshadowed by the other races, yet takes twice aslong to train for, i don;t think even the devs know what its supposed to be, i think it tries to be versatile but just ends up being **** at everything.

The Naglfar is getting a fixed bonus that turns its two turrets into three effective turrets, and is having its launchers removed (along with the two high slots they occupy and some PG and CPU to compensate).

So the Nag will actually go from being the second worst dread to being the second best, and the Revelation will take its place.

Destoya wrote:
Ships that are bad but not completely useless:

Leviathan (only slightly good because of the baller shield bonus)

What's wrong with the Leviathan? It has an absolute beast of a tank and it does the most DPS for structure shoots or caps moving slower than 30 m/s.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#91 - 2013-03-13 14:13:02 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Destoya wrote:


Deep Space Transports


Does anyone actually use these?

It would have actually made sense if CCP decided to make DSTs invulnerable to cargo scanning instead of BRs, but... they didn't for some reason.
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#92 - 2013-03-13 16:24:32 UTC
At least CCP knows that the phantasm is the worst ship.
Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2013-03-13 16:38:41 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
Destoya wrote:


Deep Space Transports


Does anyone actually use these?

It would have actually made sense if CCP decided to make DSTs invulnerable to cargo scanning instead of BRs, but... they didn't for some reason.


What ruins the DST for me is they're slower in warp and have a much higher mass than the Tech 1 versions.

It's great that they're more tanky than the tech 1 versions, but it sucks that they have to give up the core things that industrials regularly do: align and warp quickly.
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#94 - 2013-03-13 16:41:58 UTC
Irya Boone wrote:
1) SIN and mostly all black ops ships execpt the widow.

2)most usefull = all ship able to fit covert ops cloaking .. :)


Yeah, black ops are crap. Don't bother using them everyone, theyre so bad :/ Buff them CCP!
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#95 - 2013-03-13 16:44:35 UTC
Since teh OP didn't exclude special edition ships, I'm going with the Echelon (although I think it looks cool).

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#96 - 2013-03-13 16:48:59 UTC
Ersahi Kir wrote:

What ruins the DST for me is they're slower in warp and have a much higher mass than the Tech 1 versions.

It's great that they're more tanky than the tech 1 versions, but it sucks that they have to give up the core things that industrials regularly do: align and warp quickly.

"We heard you liked industrials, so we carved you a nickel-iron asteroid in the shape of an industrial and slapped engines and some paint on it for you."

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Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#97 - 2013-03-13 17:48:18 UTC
Super spikinator wrote:
At least CCP knows that the phantasm is the worst ship.

I don't really get why people say this.
Phantasm isn't that bad. Slap two large ASBs on it and it's a workable solo PVP ship.
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#98 - 2013-03-13 17:53:52 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:


What's wrong with the Leviathan? It has an absolute beast of a tank and it does the most DPS for structure shoots or caps moving slower than 30 m/s.




Probably 75% of the time I see PL's Leviathan, it ends up bouncing off the end of another titan and flying further than it's puny 60km range, at which point it's a glorified Large Shield Extender II.

TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#99 - 2013-03-13 17:59:45 UTC
I'll forgive you, because you are in RANE. Leave while you can.

Rorqual isn't used mainly for compression, it is used for the hideously good link bonus it gives while in Industrial mode.

hurr. I can tell you've never used one.

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Dazram Two
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#100 - 2013-03-13 18:05:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Dazram Two
Eagle and Cerberus.

Seriously, the Caldari HACs are garbage. When was the last time you saw either one of them in space?

Thought so.

EDIT: WTF?!? Did you just say the Caracal is bad? SIR. The Caracal is the strongest Tech 1 Cruiser in the game right now. I think you need to re-evaluate your perception of ship balance.