Ships & Modules

Where did I stated it became inferior? I stated it got nerfged a bit more. Are everyoen here uanble to grasp simple math? you have 200 nerf 20 get 180. Other has 190 you nerf 10 you still has 180. But The 200 guy was nerfed MORE. For god sake people, stop trying to transform this into psycology, its Simple math. FACTS

You want facts, ok so here goes a very clear one: what about the FACT Hurricane was totally out of whack (OP) and you guys voluntary ignore this FACT in your arguments or minimize it?

Balance is what have been done, the simple fact of getting something from it doesn't make it any worse but a balanced ship.

So in your opinion what should have been done? -put all BC's at the same performance and fitting options the Hurricane had instead so you guys could cry at CCP because Hurricane didn't had same boosts (thus nerf)?

I am tired of the balance that CCP are doing. They are trying to make all ships equal so we have a Rock, Paper, Scicors scenario in pvp, much like other mmos.

I welcomed the frigate and assault ship balances, destroyers, cruisers, but the Battlecruisers to me at least is way over the top. I armour tank my hurricaines because that how I like to fly them and now I cant fit a viable armour tank to them due to the huge drop in PG. And it is a huge drop I don't care what anyone else says.

Oops.

Maybe that looks good on its own, but once you compare it to something like a heavy pulse harbinger with scorch. You get a much better sniping boat that can also go in a brawl when it wants to, doesn't die horribly if a frig manages to get under its guns, has a medium neut, Much more DPS, Much better tracking/damage projection, has more tank, has the same speed, and can have a ton of drones depending on what you like.


The cane isn't like horrible after the nerf, but there are little reasons to fly it over the other options out there. So in comparison to its competition.... it sucks.

The cool feature of arties is alpha. And you have a much higher maximum range than pulse.

You can't get everything, or else, what would be the point of everything else ?

No what you said was that it was nerfed more then the others. It can be equally implied that you meant nerfed below them from a superior position as it can be that meant simply lost more from a position above. Not helping the clarity of this point is the fact that you listed fits still possible that you thought were impossible and called the nerf overboard.

Of course instead of clarifying if you meant different what you actually said learn to read and learn math. Something I found charming since it is very rare to find someone willing to use insults to try and clear misconceptions on the EVE O forums instead of the polite discussion which we were previously engaging in. Almost as rare as sarcasm.

claiming with hard data does, It has less PG, less agility and less slots. Factual. Therefore it is a fact that it got nerfed! Stop making yourself look an obnoxious forum troll please.

Two equally plausible ways to take a statement with no evidence in either direction does not equal responsibility though responsibility to what exactly is unclear since I did not insult you. You insulted me for misunderstanding your post when left with no way to have known what you meant.


Strong words seeing as I did not levy a single insult to you. In fact you addressed my post first and I explained to you without insults that a 425mm Shield Cane Fit was still easy to fit. When you told me that I was wrong and the Artillery Cane could not be fit without giving up another low I explained how again without insult.

You do not need to clarify anything but you did clarify what you meant which I accepted as a misunderstanding but you did so with insults in what was once an interesting discussion.


Neither do they support the conclusion the other way. Still you make insults instead of discussion.

This thread is a pretty hilarious exercise in derp.

"It was NERFED MORE THAN THE OTHERS!"

"Well, yeah, it was balanced."

"But surely you must see that in doing so, they NERFED IT MORE THAN THE OTHERS!"

"Well, yes, but it had been much better than the others, so required a larger reduction to bring into balance. Now it's more or less balanced."

"But... but it was NERFED MORE THAN THE OTHERS!"

Yes. Yes it was, because it was previously OP. That's how it works.