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Factional Warfare and CCP

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Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-10-29 02:02:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Mekhana
The CSM is well represented by the major null sec alliances but the militias have no one to represent them in the CSM whatsoever. I propose each militia is represented by a respective chosen member, so that all 4 sides are heard equally. I know this will likely this will never happen because we're rock bottom to CCP as we are a hot potato to designers. However, even if it meant we had our own meetings to express community concerns and ideas. You don't have to fly people to Iceland and pamper us really. Some kind of video conference would be enough.

I was hearing some dev ideas to 'fix FW' but they aren't very good and are out of touch with the present If you want to get to truly fix FW you'll have to get help from us FW'ers to actually get anywhere.

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Desra Mascani
Eleutherian Guard
#2 - 2011-10-29 02:09:09 UTC
I think that there is one other problem: Isn't CSM voted? You just can't appoint 4 people to it.
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-10-29 02:13:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Mekhana
Each militia would vote for their representative. Plus other small details that would have to be agreed on obviously.

4 militias and 4 representatives. Nothing complicated.

Edit: I don't mean that the we need to be forced into the CSM I meant that the militias could use a similar and simpler means to communicate with CCP so that we can relay our own particular issues in the FW community.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 
CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
#4 - 2011-10-29 02:24:50 UTC
Mekhana wrote:
Each militia would vote for their representative. Plus other small details that would have to be agreed on obviously.

4 militias and 4 representatives. Nothing complicated.

Edit: I don't mean that the we need to be forced into the CSM I meant that the militias could use a similar and simpler means to communicate with CCP so that we can relay our own particular issues in the FW community.


For that to work you need to rally people to vote for FW representatives for the next CSM.
Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-10-29 02:31:19 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Mekhana wrote:
Each militia would vote for their representative. Plus other small details that would have to be agreed on obviously.

4 militias and 4 representatives. Nothing complicated.

Edit: I don't mean that the we need to be forced into the CSM I meant that the militias could use a similar and simpler means to communicate with CCP so that we can relay our own particular issues in the FW community.


For that to work you need to rally people to vote for FW representatives for the next CSM.


For that to work we need a FW game worth playing that might actually attract people.
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-10-29 02:34:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Mekhana
It is something to think about yes. Time to start thinking big and talk loud enough for our voices to be heard. FW is all doom and gloom at the moment from being years in disrepair, few changes that came centuries late to even immense issues. hopefully though this changes a bit next expansion with the rebalance as it will at least freshen up the PVP considerably.

Time to put low sec and fun small-scale PVP back on the map. Factional Warfare must be the go-to PVP method for small corps and solo pilots and low sec must be more than the space between high and null.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#7 - 2011-10-29 02:35:49 UTC
New proposition:

Re-organize the CSM to have a designated member for each topic, null, low, high sec, WHs, FW, PVE, PVP, Industry, Market

The Drake is a Lie
BoneEater
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-10-29 02:42:56 UTC
Blog? Please?ShockedSadCry
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2011-10-29 02:43:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Mekhana
The CSM as of today doesn't represent the community as of a whole, it only represents geopolitical agendas of individuals and alliances.

EVE belongs to all of us and everyone should be represented.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 
Cunane Jeran
#10 - 2011-10-29 02:45:09 UTC
I'd quite like to see people going on different tickets, for a more diverse CSM covering all areas of play.
Cunane Jeran
#11 - 2011-10-29 02:45:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Cunane Jeran
2 for 1, your lucky day ¬¬
Kent Reeves
#12 - 2011-10-29 02:45:15 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Mekhana wrote:
Each militia would vote for their representative. Plus other small details that would have to be agreed on obviously.

4 militias and 4 representatives. Nothing complicated.

Edit: I don't mean that the we need to be forced into the CSM I meant that the militias could use a similar and simpler means to communicate with CCP so that we can relay our own particular issues in the FW community.


For that to work you need to rally people to vote for FW representatives for the next CSM.

Clearly, you missed the entire point of the post.

@Mekhana, rather than getting representatives chosen to speak to CCP how about a forum section dedicated to Factional Warfare.
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-10-29 02:47:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Mekhana
@Kent Reeves

That would be nice as a first step. It would also help FW and our events get more exposure, that would attract more pilots as well. Everyone wins.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 
Mystical Might
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#14 - 2011-10-29 02:50:37 UTC
Great Idea.
Nothing else that needs adding to be honest.


It'd work...
If CCP let it.

Blink
BoneEater
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-10-29 02:53:01 UTC
Mystical Might wrote:

It'd work...
If CCP let it.

Blink


but they wont because they have seen what some CSM can do with their position, they will have learned that much at least.

hell, we cant even get a blog after 2 + years why would they allow this? What?Cry
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-10-29 02:53:59 UTC
Mystical Might wrote:
Great Idea.
Nothing else that needs adding to be honest.


It'd work...
If CCP let it.

Blink



GF btw :P

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 
Galus Mendak
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-10-29 02:57:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Galus Mendak
Kent Reeves wrote:
CCP how about a forum section dedicated to Factional Warfare


Hear hear. Seconded.
Mystical Might
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#18 - 2011-10-29 02:57:57 UTC
Mekhana wrote:
Mystical Might wrote:
Great Idea.
Nothing else that needs adding to be honest.


It'd work...
If CCP let it.

Blink



GF btw :P



Wasn't a fight, lol...
The caldari fits are making my eyes bleed.
Definetly died a little inside looking at that scorp navy.

Great job bringing the numbers, though I doubt you'd of needed them to be honest.


On Topic; I have a question. Do we count EVERYONES vote, or do we count the active militia people (considering maybe 2% of the listed militia numbers are actually active PvPers, and aren't just carebear scrubs / inactive players).
BoneEater
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2011-10-29 03:00:07 UTC
Mystical Might wrote:


On Topic; I have a question. Do we count EVERYONES vote, or do we count the active militia people (considering maybe 2% of the listed militia numbers are actually active PvPers, and aren't just carebear scrubs / inactive players).


Could do corp ceo's director's based on killboard standings vs enemy factions within say, 3> months?
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-10-29 03:02:32 UTC
No idea. Odds are we'd have to all agree on someone to represent all the militias due to our current numbers. So we'd all have to sit down and dialog and try to find common ground on a very sportmanslike influential individual to represent us, someone who will look after the issues that plague FW as a whole and bring up issues from each of the militias.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 
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