These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Crime & Punishment

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
Previous page123Next page
 

First experiences with Miner-Ganking (minerbumping) - Report by Amyclas Amatin
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Kimo Khan
Rage Against All Reds
GunFam
#21 - 2013-03-12 13:27:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Kimo Khan
Pomp and circumstance at best. I went to Kamino last night in my Procurer. I clearly stated that I had no permit and that I needed to be bumped or ganked, did I get saved or ganked? NO. I was very disappointed. They promise an education and swift wrath but deliver only words. Some of them at least have some good banter, but others take it way too serious with no action.

Now someone may say, did you want to be ganked? YES! the sheer entertainment value would have been worth the loss, but no they would not do it. Heck they would not even bump me. The best I got was you should try low or null sec, which tells me they did not even check me on the killboards.

I will also say that Miner Teck guy is quite a whiner, and has way too much anger.

Now if James will promise to gank me and post a video of it afterwards I will return.
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2013-03-12 13:39:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Amyclas Amatin
Kimo Khan wrote:
Pomp and circumstance at best. I went to Kamino last night in my Procurer. I clearly stated that I had no permit and that I needed to be bumped or ganked, did I get saved or ganked? NO. I was very disappointed. They promise an education and swift wrath but deliver only words. Some of them at least have some good banter, but others take it way too serious with no action.

Now someone may say, did you want to be ganked? YES! the sheer entertainment value would have been worth the loss, but no they would not do it. Heck they would not even bump me. The best I got was you should try low or null sec, which tells me they did not even check me on the killboards.

I will also say that Miner Teck guy is quite a whiner, and has way too much anger.

Now if James will promise to gank me and post a video of it afterwards I will return.


If you are thrill-seeking, perhaps you'd consider joining us instead? It's the most fun you'll ever have in 6 seconds. Drop me or any other agent a mail or convo in-game if you want in on the action.

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Kimo Khan
Rage Against All Reds
GunFam
#23 - 2013-03-12 14:09:13 UTC
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
Kimo Khan wrote:
Pomp and circumstance at best. I went to Kamino last night in my Procurer. I clearly stated that I had no permit and that I needed to be bumped or ganked, did I get saved or ganked? NO. I was very disappointed. They promise an education and swift wrath but deliver only words. Some of them at least have some good banter, but others take it way too serious with no action.

Now someone may say, did you want to be ganked? YES! the sheer entertainment value would have been worth the loss, but no they would not do it. Heck they would not even bump me. The best I got was you should try low or null sec, which tells me they did not even check me on the killboards.

I will also say that Miner Teck guy is quite a whiner, and has way too much anger.

Now if James will promise to gank me and post a video of it afterwards I will return.


If you are thrill-seeking, perhaps you'd consider joining us instead? It's the most fun you'll ever have in 6 seconds. Drop me or any other agent a mail or convo in-game if you want in on the action.


A kind offer but I will pass. Blowing up ships is fun and all, but I prefer the hunt over the gank. Not to say what you all do isn't fun, it is just not what I prefer to do.
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-03-12 14:30:04 UTC
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
I just led my first gank.

The pilot was unable to purchase a new retriever.

If he had repented and gave a gf and embraced the violence that is part of eve, we'd have bought him one.


Funny... gf usually mean good fight. Fighting requires a minimum of two people duking it out.

You remind me of those kids that would go down the hallway and knock some kids books out of their hands and tell the principal "If he had said good fight I would have picked up his books"

Since the miner didn't fight back I have to wonder what GF stands for.
Pap Uhotih
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2013-03-12 14:38:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Pap Uhotih
Milan Nantucket wrote:

Since the miner didn't fight back I have to wonder what GF stands for.


I believe that it is an abbreviation of GFY. I’m not sure why they are so desperate for people to say it to them but it does seem appropriate.
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#26 - 2013-03-12 14:58:00 UTC
Kimo Khan wrote:
Pomp and circumstance at best. I went to Kamino last night in my Procurer. I clearly stated that I had no permit and that I needed to be bumped or ganked, did I get saved or ganked? NO. I was very disappointed. They promise an education and swift wrath but deliver only words. Some of them at least have some good banter, but others take it way too serious with no action.


Here is another situation where misunderstanding the New Halaima Code of Conduct has created a complaint from an entitled carebear.

The Code clearly states that we will bump (or gank) whoever we choose. Its our system, we control it, we decide who gets to mine and who doesn't. We are under no compulsion to bump or gank a miner because he has decided we should. What the miner wants does not enter into our decisions unless he buys a permit and follows The Code. Then we have said we will not bump or gank him.

Until he meets the requirements of The Code, the New Order will decide for ourselves how far up our list he rises. The ONLY decision the miner gets to make is to buy a permit and follow The Code. If he decides not to, its up to us if he lives, dies, or shoots across the ice field backwards at 2000 m/s.

315 4 CSM8

Highsec is worth fighting for.

Bing Bangboom
Agent of the New Order of Highsec
Belligerent Undesirable

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2013-03-12 14:58:27 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
I just led my first gank.

The pilot was unable to purchase a new retriever.

If he had repented and gave a gf and embraced the violence that is part of eve, we'd have bought him one.


Funny... gf usually mean good fight. Fighting requires a minimum of two people duking it out.

You remind me of those kids that would go down the hallway and knock some kids books out of their hands and tell the principal "If he had said good fight I would have picked up his books"

Since the miner didn't fight back I have to wonder what GF stands for.


Who said anything about letting the other guy having a chance to fight back?

This is not dueling, this is ganking.

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Marlon Darmazaf
e-L00T Ltd.
#28 - 2013-03-12 15:00:25 UTC
Like what has happened to many religious movements, I'm waiting for the juicy exposes of scandalous llama abuse or whatnot in the upper ranks of James' church thing.

On a serious note, it's like an old fruit cake from 2003. It's been re-gifted many times, each time with some new, shiny wrapping paper. This time, it's got some RP elements that were cute, but, sadly, have yellowed with age over the past few months.

Any one else getting bored with these James 315 posts? Roll

So... um... yeah!
Kane Alvo
Doomheim
#29 - 2013-03-12 15:01:52 UTC
Wescro2 wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
However as with everything else the only reason I hate the entire minerbumping thing and James and i have said it a lot before. Is they sugar coat what they do.

Don't do that, your not helping anybody your just extorting isk and killing ships who in reality has no hope of defending themselves. I scoff at people saying tank your ship we all know that is bull, no tanked indy ship will survive a gank if they really want to kill you.

And I am done.


Noooo. The miner is supposed to take it seriously and get ticked off, not you. -_-


The Cannibal has a valid point, and echos how a lot of players feel about your "New Order".

I can appreciate what you do, and why you're doing it. In the grand scheme of things, it makes sense, and is emergent game play. However, your constant need to draw attention to yourselves and wrapping all of it in a ridiculous "savior of hi-sec" package is over the top. James315 himself has gone out of control with his enormous walls of text.

You're suicide gankers and extortionists, nothing more, nothing less. That's perfectly fine, but don't attempt to make it out to be more than what it is. You only come off looking like idiots.

Caldari Militia  ☜★☞ Psychotic Monk for CSM8

Kimo Khan
Rage Against All Reds
GunFam
#30 - 2013-03-12 15:09:30 UTC
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Kimo Khan wrote:
Pomp and circumstance at best. I went to Kamino last night in my Procurer. I clearly stated that I had no permit and that I needed to be bumped or ganked, did I get saved or ganked? NO. I was very disappointed. They promise an education and swift wrath but deliver only words. Some of them at least have some good banter, but others take it way too serious with no action.


Here is another situation where misunderstanding the New Halaima Code of Conduct has created a complaint from an entitled carebear.

The Code clearly states that we will bump (or gank) whoever we choose. Its our system, we control it, we decide who gets to mine and who doesn't. We are under no compulsion to bump or gank a miner because he has decided we should. What the miner wants does not enter into our decisions unless he buys a permit and follows The Code. Then we have said we will not bump or gank him.

Until he meets the requirements of The Code, the New Order will decide for ourselves how far up our list he rises. The ONLY decision the miner gets to make is to buy a permit and follow The Code. If he decides not to, its up to us if he lives, dies, or shoots across the ice field backwards at 2000 m/s.

315 4 CSM8

Highsec is worth fighting for.

Bing Bangboom
Agent of the New Order of Highsec
Belligerent Undesirable


Bing Bangboom,

Now that is a worthy response. If someone had only had the insight to give such a response last night it would have been much better.

As it is I was forced to return to the safety of lowsec without an education.
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#31 - 2013-03-13 00:45:34 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
I just led my first gank.

The pilot was unable to purchase a new retriever.

If he had repented and gave a gf and embraced the violence that is part of eve, we'd have bought him one.


Funny... gf usually mean good fight. Fighting requires a minimum of two people duking it out.

You remind me of those kids that would go down the hallway and knock some kids books out of their hands and tell the principal "If he had said good fight I would have picked up his books"

Since the miner didn't fight back I have to wonder what GF stands for.


More thoughts on the matter:

Actually I'd compare what we're doing to the suicide bombing of peace protesters. Every suicide ganker has to make sacrifices for the cause. Bullies tend to avoid damage or risk to themselves.

Being undocked puts the miners at risk in a pvp situation anyway. Now, if they were alert, and checked local, d-scanned every other second, and docked up whenever they saw catalysts coming out to play, then maybe they could have been saved.

The trick to suicide ganking is not the elite skills or even the dps, it's the initiative. And when all your battles are 6 seconds long, initiative is everything. - Which why AFK miners and players too used to PVE situations don't stand half a chance.

A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week.

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#32 - 2013-03-13 02:43:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelique Duchemin
The Order is just about glorified piracy right? I must have misunderstood the ads because I had heard it was some stand against botters. But I ran into them several days ago as they literally chased another player around the system. A very responsive and panicked player mind you.

The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity.

Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2013-03-13 03:23:30 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
The Order is just about glorified piracy right? I must have misunderstood the ads because I had heard it was some stand against botters. But I ran into them several days ago as they literally chased another player around the system. A very responsive and panicked player mind you.


Nu'adu > We genuinely care for the well being of all miners in Highsec.

It's social activism.

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#34 - 2013-03-13 10:38:40 UTC
Well since there are no longer any botters left in the game to kill then I suppose there's room to move to the next priority...

The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity.

Kimo Khan
Rage Against All Reds
GunFam
#35 - 2013-03-13 13:18:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Kimo Khan
Amyclas Amatin wrote:


Actually I'd compare what we're doing to the suicide bombing of peace protesters. Every suicide ganker has to make sacrifices for the cause. Bullies tend to avoid damage or risk to themselves.



Be sure to update wiki on that idea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullying

Additionally are you protesting peace or equating yourself to religious freedom fighters? I am not exactly sure what a peace protestor is by your definition.

If you are going to equate yourself to something, make sure you really know what that means.

Edit: Protestors for Peace also don't do suicide attacks as it would defeat the point to protest for peace by the means of violence. They may commit suicide as part of their protest, but they don't attack others.
Marlon Darmazaf
e-L00T Ltd.
#36 - 2013-03-13 13:43:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Marlon Darmazaf
Peace protesters typically stand for something of merit, even noble causes.

Strip mining digital rocks in a video game isn't something I'd imagine Ghandi undertaking to make a point about society's ills...

Can we get a breath of fresh air, here? It's a video game, not a platform for political tirade or quasi-religious obfuscation.

So... um... yeah!
SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2013-03-13 19:40:14 UTC
Good OP;

Just join FW and hang out near the hub station in Hek. Hek is high sec. I see people get blown to bits there all the time and you don't have to wait 7 hours between each go. I couldn't take a play-style as dull as you descibe.

your humble servent
SeaSaw
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#38 - 2013-03-13 20:58:09 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
The Order is just about glorified piracy right?.


Only if you failed horribly at comprehending what it's really about.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#39 - 2013-03-14 14:46:58 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
The Order is just about glorified piracy right?.


Only if you failed horribly at comprehending what it's really about.



I'm well aware of what it claims to be but it seems that piracy is just more fun in the end than crusading against botters.

The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity.

Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#40 - 2013-03-14 16:19:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Amyclas Amatin
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
The Order is just about glorified piracy right?.


Only if you failed horribly at comprehending what it's really about.



I'm well aware of what it claims to be but it seems that piracy is just more fun in the end than crusading against botters.


We're running at a loss here, it's not quite like piracy. It really is about volunteers doing their part to send a message.
We are however, subsidized by the generosity of our shareholders.

We take pre-emptive measures against bots by killing anyone who shows bot aspirant behaviour.

It is also more fun when you feed people bullshit roleplay reasons for killing them.

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Previous page123Next page