Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yes I found them after I searched a bit... thanks.


Not control; complement and fill gaps where they need to be filled. Basically, play the part of a real player to help balance the economy.

As for goods they could haul, could be anything that can be manufactured, raw materials, blueprints, etc... instead of just "trade goods" that no real player has any use for. That way the missions you'd get (other than the combat ones) could actually be relevant to the economy instead of just being ISK sinks. I mean, who cares about Holoreels and Slaves when there is no purpose for them? For this they would probably have to produce certain goods in certain stations (relevant to the type of corporation it is), and then create a supply chain with other stations, all that without competing overly with the player manufacturing (but rather complementing it).

I'm not sure how it could all work and it would probably be very complex, that's for sure, but it could be done I'm sure as well. It's just another type of AI after all...

Missions are done solo in highsec. they arent supposed to be "omg profits i roll in iskies now".

i know people who run level 3's and 4's and make neough to PLEX every motnh and a little extra, IMO thats even bordering on ridiculous.

highsec missioning is supposed to help newbies get the isk to set themselves up in the SOCIAL aspect of eve online. as in get the money and experience to go out and fulfill a profitable role with other players (and no, im not saying YOU HAVE TO PVP at all). if you move to lowsec for instance, i knwo several pirate corps who have missioning-only members to help both make money for the corp in level 5's, and act as bait so the pvp players can jump people who try to attack the missioners.

highsec missioning should not ever be the be all end all, or even remotely close to "high end" of the isk-making methods, you want good isk from PvE, go do null anoms or wormhole sleeper sites.

TL;DR missions give just enough isk for how long they take to do, people can PLEX accounts with missions, if anything missions are already pretty damn profitable for the time/effort required for them.

I think that if CCP made missions more player interactive this would be a great way to encourage people to do them! Agents would have a pool of open missions for anyone to accept, and it would remain open until completed or a timer runs out. Then people can compete for the mission reward,bonus, and standings gain!

Huh!!??? Last time i was logged.



Not at all, Its still reasonable easy in a battleship with named fitting and most skills at level 3-4. Off coarse you will not make the same isk/hour than someone in a office fitted marauder/faction BS but that is not the point.




And you are missing the point of their responses: It still make a good amount of ISK, and raising the ISK reward wold lead to more inflation. Nonetheless there is a fair amount of options available, and mostly options that weren't available when mission were designed.

Also mission were way less balanced before in term of extra rewards, LP and salvage made wonder in this regard.




People disagree with your proposal and are just pointing out why. Missions are a easy target, so the bashing its natural.



Back on they there was no salvage or LP store. Nor incursions or WH. Those, to name a few, were used by CCP to adjust mission value. While you argue that a direct increase in missions rewards/npc bounties are needed, CCP dont think that way since its value comes to the current level (somewhat) according to CCP plan.

You do realise that EvE is a game, right? It's not real. How many people would drive their car head long into a bus for a giggle in real life? There are plenty of people in EvE who would do anything to screw up the system, just because they could.

As for real life boom and busts, there is a reason most of the western world is in a resection right now. Look at post-war Germany or America during the great depression. That is what happens when the RL economic safeguards fail.

Economic terrorism does exist and there are many safeguards set in place to prevent it. But by and by, Joe Public is not multi-trillionaire who decides to convince his mates to flood the economy with his cash then horde it all again. The same cannot be said for the EvE player base.

If CCP did decide to run the EvE economy just like RL, then forget expansions, iteration and new content. They would have to put everyone onto watching and monitoring the economy. And just like in the current world, you would have those with money, and those without. No one could amass a personal fortune without being incredibly lucky and/or devious. The balance of power would literally create a class system, we would all end up working for the coalitions, as it would be them that controlled the economy, even more than they do now.

So, how many people do you think would pay a subscription fee to basically be a nobody?

Missions aren't so much the issue per say. It's all forms of isk printing PvE. You can make much more running exploration sites in null than you can on any highsec mission.

We just need a few higher isk sinks to balance it out.

Buffing the payout for missions will only accelerate the process, as adding more isk to the economy is what creates inflation. Now... there are other possibilities to increase relative payout I could possibly understand (reworking salvaging to include recovering minerals, trade goods, and t2 components from wrecks in addition to the usual 'salvage' stuff might be viable), but flat up using liquid isk would only increase inflation.

Adding an alternate source of items like T2 components (T2 ship wrecks), trade goods, construction components, and minerals would cause a reduction in inflation or perhaps even deflationary pressure.

What you have to understand is that EVE is a MMO with a player driven economy... they can simulate NPC involvement somewhat with NPC buy orders and so forth, but the developers are quite insistent on it remaining, player driven. Now... I can understand perhaps having NPC buy orders that update every day with a price based on the average buy or sale price of an item, but it should never be NPC driven.