EVE General Discussion

Adapting requires some intelligence, but far more important: effort. Whining on forums is free.

After all since I am perfect, why should I change?? It's always the others you see.

It seems to me that the problem is trying to have a justice system with NPCs. Why not just do away with "high-sec" space, make everything player-owned, and give alliances more options for policing space? This may seem radical, but think about it: wih proper incentives, player alliances may want to build up economic systems and defend them. And with the proper tools, players will be able to defend systems better than CONCORD.

This imo. Ofc unless the new ppl coming into the game are especially hard, we probably wouldnt get any new players again

That's like a miner asking "why not just do away with guns?"...

Some people like being a peon in a mega alliance, some people don't. The variety of types of space support a whole varied ecosystem of ways you can play the game. There are very different opportunities in each type of space. Just tossing all that away and replacing it with homogenized goonspace seems like it would pretty much destroy the game.

Not everyone is afraid of conflict as you are. I know people who quit eve BECAUSE of highsec BS, because they never got to see 0.0 and thought eve was the most boring, lame thing ever.

This describes most peoples impression of highsec.

Seems to be where he guy I quoted is tryin to get things.

Um ... they CAN be as is you realize... its called suicide ganking, can flipping, etc etc etc etc

There is no real reason to play any video game. People play video games because they think they are fun. Do you really get more acclaim by being one of 1000 people to do something awesome or to be 1 of a group of 10 people that accomplished something 1% as cool? Or something that is 0.1% as cool that you accomplished solo? Seems you could go both ways on that. On one hand, a lot more people hear about something it takes 1000 players to accomplish than something it takes 10 players to accomplish. But, then again, they probably could have accomplished it just as easily with 999 players, so it's hard to really get too proud about something that you're only 1/1000th of.

The acclaim of random dudes you've never met who don't even know your real name may seem like the obvious payout of the game to you, but that's just a personal preference kind of thing. There are lots of other things people enjoy about the game. Figuring out a solution to a problem for yourself and managing to do something you weren't able to do in the past is the main payout for me. I couldn't get that in a big corp really.

Anyways, the point is that there are a lot of ways to play the game. That's what makes it fun. Different people with different interests can find niches that suit those interests. All the posters on this forum that spend so much effort arguing "X is the best way to play the game so we should just make everybody play that way" are totally missing the point of the game IMO. It's like demanding that all the tv stations only play one particular show because you are convinced that it is the best show...

Sorry, when I fly in a thousand man fleet I make a difference, so my name stands out. Force multipliers and all that. You can also achieve this by FCing, or by being the guy who ran the logistics that kept us all in ships. Its even in the propaganda artist who gets idiots to post stupid ideas about buffing concord or banning goons.

Killing people isn't the measure of acclaim I speak of, its the impact you made. I WAS a dps grunt in the blob at one point. I identified a place I could perform well that would allow me to stand out(in my case, I decided I should fly logi). I am now earning a name for myself, and people are starting to recognize me and know that I will change the flow of battle because I am in their fleet.

One thing people miss about eve is the fact that it is a social game, meaning that the whole point is the interactions of people with each other, not with rocks or funny red crosses. If being a big fish in a small pond is enough, well, honestly, why would that be enough? How can you NOT want to achieve in this game(which means social achievement) yet still want to play it?

And as to the answer that isk is your end goal, what do you plan on doing with that isk? You will never make enough to make anyone at all care, because you aren't actually using it to do anything other than gloat... and I guarantee plenty of people have more.

The strategy of "Burned earth" could be just right, even fare more complex in its design lay out to bring about change in the game, but on the end bluntly collapsing just to it: “Burned Earth”.

There was a famous saying within the Prussian army echelons: “ Viele Feind, viel Ehr!”, meaning: Lots of enemy’ is lots of honor. Used and abused in a darker part of history some years following the Prussia era it was a simply rip out of it original context “Lots of enemy’s is lots of honor, but always brings the fall into the own sword”. It appears the sentence has become program for “The Mittani” and his flock!

It's a Sandbox..., a Sandbox...., a Sandbox....! All of it…., and nothing more, nothing less!

Whatever the self-proclaimed historians of the EvE Sandbox hurdle to document in their archives someday and put on the front page blogs, whether " The reigin of the Mittani" or " The GSF, a example of fail in strategy" it will be the obvious; a repeat of history itself, even in the little world of the sandbox.

“ Tu quoque fili?", “so you are among them?” These are the final and famous words of Cesar (assumed). Daub fully we will see Hillmar Perterson ever have occurring this question on his mind concerning a little alliance CEO no matter how hard he tries to intercept the ear and thoughts trug the CSM to a real live CEO. (With the sole ability to single handed switch down all desires of a GAF CEO by shooting down the server at once. The burning thorn of jealousy of the absolute power absent) If we can’t get it outside the game we do it in the game!
Geniuse.

Even “The Mittanis” genius strike to call the operation “Goonswarm shrugged” in the attempt to lean on Any Rand’s famous novel “Atlas shrugged” just gives away his passion for coding a GSF operation to a significant deeper meaning by relating it to the cornerstones of American literature, yet again a failure to connect recent RL social movements to the game (read his interest). We like the intention of it and Any Rand’s novel will survive it well! The attempt to create a connection to the novels philosophy and its content is intriguing even though the use (abuse) for his own agi-prop in the “real live in the pixel Sandbox” is in its outcome just a phantasy greater (really smaller) as the novel by Any Rand.

The Gallente Ice interdiction was a fail from the beginig. And by purpose I write was! It might be alive by the jurisdiction of the GSF command but as de-facto already in atrophy. The market in the Eve Sandbox is a strange creature and does not respond well if kicked to get up or down or move at all. It jumps, it moves but just to lay down some days later and id upset by its all.

From the very beginning we discussed the GS_S possible market and strategic outcome and relevance in our Corp board and came to the conclusion it will create noting but hot air on the market! A temporarily hype on OI and BI which will cool down again. (as happened right by now) Just refer to the geniuses market manipulation of Noxium, all back to 350/ea. The self-proclaimed attempt to change the or even destroys the market in eve was as high placed as it fall allready is.

Why ? It’s all said in his first paragraph of his pamphlet “Goonswarm shrugged” for those who can read and draw strategically conclusions. The Man allowed his last strategic failure get to his bones and could not see the possibilities behind his own ignition’s.
I am burning hard to give out the complete strategic analyze (marked/military) we made but for the fun of the game we want to watch the operation “Goonswarm struggled” up to its final scene.

I shall dub thee "Crazy Ivan".