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Why complain about High Sec but not SOV mechanics? An honest look at null bears.

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EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#61 - 2013-03-12 00:18:00 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:

Well you introduced the idea into the discourse. How about you tell me how that helps change SOV mechanics before you call on me to back my response to your post through ad hominems.

please see all of the numerous well-written articles on the subject that you ignored along with everything else that exists in the world of facts
Antir
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2013-03-12 00:18:10 UTC
poncho :smith:
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#63 - 2013-03-12 00:19:35 UTC
Andski wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
No, no its not.


okay guy since you clearly know about sovereignty, explain the process of taking a station system in detail


notice that the npc alt has not responded to this question

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-03-12 00:21:16 UTC
Andski wrote:
Andski wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
No, no its not.


okay guy since you clearly know about sovereignty, explain the process of taking a station system in detail


notice that the npc alt has not responded to this question


Becasue its a strawman.

Its common knowledge how SOV works.

Notice how none of you are willing to admit that SOV, as is, is far more detrimental to good pvp than anything going on in high sec.

[b]Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement President[/b] Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. [u]A modern girl for a modern world.[/u]
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#65 - 2013-03-12 00:21:47 UTC
This thread is going places, and by "places" I mean "nowhere".

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#66 - 2013-03-12 00:22:10 UTC
see hiseccers are against an industry revamp to nullsec because it would be contrary to their goal of amassing as much isk as possible before cashing out of the game

an industry revamp in 0.0 would mean that a large number of the items consumed in 0.0 would be produced there, with only low-end minerals being imported from hisec

naturally, hisec producers don't wish to compete with their nullsec counterparts

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#67 - 2013-03-12 00:22:15 UTC
Andski wrote:
Andski wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
No, no its not.


okay guy since you clearly know about sovereignty, explain the process of taking a station system in detail


notice that the npc alt has not responded to this question

that question does not exist in sariah kion's reality

you need to stop having this actual-reality bias and start dealing with a reality where all facts that are problematic for sariah kion's bot-aspirant fantasies do not exist
Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2013-03-12 00:22:35 UTC
Andski wrote:
Andski wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
No, no its not.


okay guy since you clearly know about sovereignty, explain the process of taking a station system in detail


notice that the npc alt has not responded to this question


How dare you question his all knowing power on everything EVE related. Bloody peasant
Mistress Motion
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2013-03-12 00:22:48 UTC
Funny thing to see all the goons here suddenly. And none of them really has anything constructive to say.

Well, at least few of them sometimes do have good ideas, but those always drown in the sea of normal goon blabber.
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#70 - 2013-03-12 00:23:08 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:

Notice how none of you are willing to admit that SOV, as is, is far more detrimental to good pvp than anything going on in high sec.


see a person interested in factual reality might have noticed the four pages of "sov sucks you idiot and should be replaced and we've been saying it for years"

but this is not the reality sariah kion chooses to use
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#71 - 2013-03-12 00:24:20 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:
Its common knowledge how SOV works.


great so explain the process since it's "common knowledge"

explain to the class why a sovereignty revamp and an industry revamp do not effectively go hand-in-hand

keep in mind that most sov proposals have centered around activity-based sovereignty rather than passive ownership

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#72 - 2013-03-12 00:25:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Mistress Motion wrote:
Funny thing to see all the goons here suddenly. And none of them really has anything constructive to say.

Well, at least few of them sometimes do have good ideas, but those always drown in the sea of normal goon blabber.


says the npc alt who posted nothing constructive in the thread other than "look @ teh goonies Twisted"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#73 - 2013-03-12 00:26:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Sariah Kion
Mistress Motion wrote:
Funny thing to see all the goons here suddenly. And none of them really has anything constructive to say.

Well, at least few of them sometimes do have good ideas, but those always drown in the sea of normal goon blabber.


*ding ding ding*

Its and interesting quandary. Not completely unexpected however.

Maybe the thread hits a little to close to home?

[b]Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement President[/b] Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. [u]A modern girl for a modern world.[/u]
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#74 - 2013-03-12 00:27:53 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:
Mistress Motion wrote:
Funny thing to see all the goons here suddenly. And none of them really has anything constructive to say.

Well, at least few of them sometimes do have good ideas, but those always drown in the sea of normal goon blabber.


*ding ding ding*

Its and interesting quandary. Not completely unexpected however.


your idea of a constructive post is apparently "i agree with everything you say, you are always right"

but that's not in line with reality

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#75 - 2013-03-12 00:28:07 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:
Mistress Motion wrote:
Funny thing to see all the goons here suddenly. And none of them really has anything constructive to say.

Well, at least few of them sometimes do have good ideas, but those always drown in the sea of normal goon blabber.


*ding ding ding*

Its and interesting quandary. Not completely unexpected however.

"oh look the similar npc alt just happened to pop in and agree with the initial poster then log out and the initial poster agrees with them

i sure hope nobody foolishly thinks sariah kion, desperately flailing to rescue her thread, is sockpuppeting it"
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#76 - 2013-03-12 00:29:07 UTC
what could salvage this argument
facts? no
dealing with reality? no
sockpuppeting npc alts to mindlessly agree and say nothing? there's the ticket
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#77 - 2013-03-12 00:30:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
sariah kion perhaps if you wanted to provoke an actual discussion you wouldn't have blatantly poisoned the well in your OP

and then accused everyone who disagrees of being "sockpuppets" (because you, the npc alt poster, are obviously not a sockpuppet)

and then posted with another character that is obviously your alt

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#78 - 2013-03-12 00:31:13 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
what could salvage this argument
facts? no
dealing with reality? no
sockpuppeting npc alts to mindlessly agree and say nothing? there's the ticket

The oldest trick in the boat.

We GEWNS are also capable of mindlessly putting together arguments based on evidence. See: Many posts on this very subject.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#79 - 2013-03-12 00:31:57 UTC
Andski wrote:
sariah kion perhaps if you wanted to provoke an actual discussion you wouldn't have blatantly poisoned the well in your OP

and then accused everyone who disagrees of being "sockpuppets" (because you, the npc alt poster, are obviously not a sockpuppet)

TRAWLING 4 TROWLZZ

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#80 - 2013-03-12 00:33:21 UTC
Andski wrote:
sariah kion perhaps if you wanted to provoke an actual discussion you wouldn't have blatantly poisoned the well in your OP

and then accused everyone who disagrees of being "sockpuppets" (because you, the npc alt poster, are obviously not a sockpuppet)

and then posted with another character that is obviously your alt


I see you still choose to attack the poster and not debate the post.

A tactic those of your ilk are familiar with Im afraid.

[b]Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement President[/b] Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. [u]A modern girl for a modern world.[/u]