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A bit off topic but I don't see where else to ask. Is there any chance someone will spend the 15 minutes to make EVEgate homepage display current news feeds automatically rather than the release of Crucible?

Sends a sort of a confusing and bad message to newbies when game support material is prominent and also obviously left short of professionally design/completion. And I suspect a lots of regular members would like to have quick glances at news for anything applicable at a place more convenient to stop and read than EVE client logon. Plus I don't like having to log off to see new news posted in EVE client logon when someone mentions it.

Yes I am well aware there are workarounds if I just put a little extra effort into it.

But my counter is -- if CCP is bothering to put up webpages they at least keep the more prominent pages working and that particularly applies to homepages.

If proper content requires login to display - reduce that section to a login box rather than displaying a quarter page of content a year out of date...especially do not leave to the user to figure out the workarounds to get up-to-date content. And I suspect there are fairly easy ways for IGB to have automatic account logon (assuming that is the issue with news display or forum access) if someone stopped and thought about it. Not like the IGB is intended for standalone external use or linking to clients distributed on other client computer accounts or across network. Security issues should be fairly easy as that was why we have a IGB.


Oh and if you don't want problems with web pages showing up here. Have the web gurus throw in a footnote link on each webpage for where to report webpage bugs -- like another other professional websites.

I reported this in a bug report for Retribution 1.0, and my response from CCP was that this was "as intended" as this was the most recent news before that release.

Goes to show what CCP thinks the concept of "CURRENT" means.

Seems like we have swapped client random lock-ups for random socket closure!

The last in your list sounds like they are an outlaw and you have low standings set to flashy red.

I'm so sorry to repeat myself, but I'm still having keyboard recognition problems in the PC client and I'm unsure if this is just a problem with me or it's a genuine bug...

I'm logged on with cleared settings, and as a test, I tried the following:
With "Combat/Warp To" set to "W" (shows up in Selected Item mouseover as "W"),
1) Select a warpable target in overview (e.g. Stargate, Asteroid Belt, Enemy, Station)
2) Press "W"
3) Get window saying "You cannot navigate that way with the selected object. It is too far away. Try moving in its direction instead."

However : clicking the "Warp To..." button in the Selected Items window on the same target works! It even displays the "W" as the key!

Pressing the "Goto" key returns the same error : so is the client confusing the two keys, or is this something about the gameplay that I'm totally misunderstanding and should ask for help in the appropriate channel?

I also tried jumping to a Stargate that I couldn't warp to with the changed key, using a modified "Dock/Jump" key, and it worked!

What am I doing wrong?

If anyone wants to verify this, it's super simple. Change the default key, enter space, select a couple of items, try warping to them with the new key. Remember, sometimes it works for a while, then it stops.

Thanks for any help with this - it's driving me to desperation (i.e. resetting all my lovely shortcuts, UI settings, confirmation dialogs...)

Cephas Borg

In the "Shortcuts" tab, I've noticed there's an anomaly.

It's possible to duplicate a key combination in the "Navigation / Toggle Autopilot" with "Combat / Align To".

The reverse doesn't work - the duplicate is trapped. But do it the other way, and it's fine.

Hope this helps, and I apologise if someone else has already mentioned it! I did do a search on the forum and it found none of those terms together or apart...

CPB

Here's a few more : Hopefully the UI can be fixed sometime soon.

1) Overview settings made and applied in-station fail to apply when undocked, and have to be laboriously re-configured.

ii) Randomly, new items will become checked in different overview brackets. For example, in a "ships only" bracket, where nothing but ships are enabled (checked), all of a sudden asteroid belts will appear.

C) There needs to be a separate set of shortcuts for in-station commands and in-space commands. It's not acceptable to have a keystroke for launching drones (which isn't actually a command!) "taken" when it could be used for commands in-station.

IV) Shortcut keys do not work the same in Mac and PC versions of the client. With the exact same set of windows open and active in both clients, different keystrokes ('bare' keys without modifiers, shifted keys, control/alt modified keys) work completely differently in both clients.

5) Shortcut keys MUST TAKE PRIORITY in all situations!
- If there are windows open, but none are active, most (but not all) shortcut keys work as advertised.
- If a window is open and active, but there are no text boxes active, most (but not all ) shortcut keys fail to work at all!

f) Shortcut keys MUST be able to be exported and imported.

7) Overview settings, when imported, should identically configure the Overview tabs and filters as they were exported from.

VIII) Could the developers have come up with a worse font? The font needs to be configurable. Serif fonts are there for a reason, guys and gals. That reason is so that confusing characters, such as 1 and I and l, or O and 0, or commas and periods, can be distinguished. The current font (which I know is touted as an improvement over the previous font) is just execrable. It almost makes the game unplayable. That stands for miners, brokers, and pirates.

Boy this UI stinks.

CPB

Postscriptum :
By
"Boy this UI stinks"

I really mean
Wouldn't it be great to have a user interface that was coded as a single, properly managed, entity?
IOW, rather than being put together from multiple, separately designed codebases, viz. :

• Neocom
• Text edit fields
• Graphical rendering
• Keystroke handlers
• Window/ management
• Tab management
• List management
• List item lookup/DB backend
• Network verification/authorisation
• ...

... to name just a few of the different parts of the UI that are now breaking down with every new patch, on both Windows and Mac clients.

The ship console (cap, hull, armor, shields) disappeared and the Neocom icons were "dragged" into use. Very funny seeing whatever's last on the Neocom bar arcing to and fro as your ship accellerates and decellerates. Heh heh heh.

I really hope the devs are working on these problem reports. Especially the 'UI 101' problems. (Pssst! someone changed something...)

Bad devs. No Sprite tonight.

You've broken the divisions selection when first choosing to invent/manufructure job again..Fix it please.

Now that I'm trying to get to grips with the game at more than a tryout level, I'm starting to very seriously wonder exactly what the alpha and beta testing process is, was, and will be.

Right now, it looks very much as if a group of hardcore, indepth players are testing a few very simple things that they really like playing with, and that's why the bugs introduced into less sexy areas, such as the user interface, which is badly broken on all platforms, don't get sorted when they should.

I'm sure there's a lovely, shiny, gloss-coated list hanging on a CCP wall somewhere outlining the defined testing procedures - which are ignored in lieu of pretty, shiny, pew-pew stuff. That's the way big corporations work. Instead of getting game-lovers, they're getting aspect-lovers, which explains a lot of the recent "rebalancing" and "re-rebalancing" and so on that's going on at the moment.

As an example of my incomprehension in this area : I cannot believe that a game with this pedigree has so many serious bugs in the keyboard handling, both in the UI (hotkeys being misinterpreted as text inputs, or -worse- hotkeys being ignored entirely, for no reason. And there are so many more!

That is programming 101, which appears to have been ignored in favour of features 101. I'm getting more and more disappointed in Eve the more I get into it. And I mean frustratingly, teeth-grindingly disappointed. Eve could be so much better, so simply...

Ah well. Keep piling up the problems, guys. Our beta-testing days are no longer behind us...