Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Gold should be used for ammo.

Would like to see both, but not sure how "gold" is going to do anything. It needs to have some functional use or it is worthless. If there is just some item out there called "gold", well, who cares? There's all sorts of odd little bits around Eve that are not useful for anything. Prices move up and down sometimes but often not based on anything but the greater fool theory.

In a curious way, though not entirely due to the rate of monetary expansion, ISK is the gold, if we're looking for a real world equivalent. In-game ISK is technically a debt free commodity based money. It is the commodity with the highest degree of salability, Absatzfahigkeit (saleablness) as Menger puts it in the work "On the Origins of Money", 1892. It is a unit of account, it is divisible and uniform. These are also features of gold and other precious metals.

Now if NPC corps would accept this "gold" as a form of payment for repairs, or rentals, or something like that, and the increase of the supply was slow and gradual, but widespread enough for adoption by everyone, then it may start to fill the role. But it will compete directly with ISK in that regard. Perhaps if it could be used with NPCs for services, and its supply was absolutely fixed, and NPCs had a way to cycle the supply back out, and there was a method where by inactive accounts did not lead to "gold sinks", then perhaps we'd have something.

If your goal is a store of value for the long hold to guard against ISK inflation ... learn to trade on long positions.

Do not confuse Role Play Lore with technical reality.

Eve Lore states that ISK is a fiat currency, so what? To get ISK in the game, we have to go out and expend labor to get it, time and effort - this is labor. ISK represents this labor, and importantly, labor done in the past.

Yen is a fiat debt based money, it represents labor in the future. They are quite different.

well in rl gold is gold and isk is currency. gold is used as a hedge against inflation. i am sure with the smart people within ccp and in the eve community this could be worked out. make it a very rare items that are found in mining and rare drops. i am sure there could be a use for it other than just currency but if they are very rare it could be cool.

Do not say the word GOLD and EVE togather.

All the WoT player will instantly think Pay-to-win and unsub their accounts.

BARBIE WANTS THE DRESS IN MARKET

I am not against having gold or a gold equivalent in Eve, I was simply trying to point out that ISK, as a commodity money, behaves, and has attributes, very much the same as gold once did in the real world.

Gold was introduced this summer....

This will not fly, gold is wanted in real life (along with other precious metals) as it is for decoration, is a status symbol, etc and so forth due to deeply rooted cultural forces. This would not apply to gold or other precious metals that do nothing other than look pretty to the majority, you can see that in other games that have gold or platinum as a currency. The vast majority of WoW players only want gold to get things like enchantments to improve their gear so they get more lewts. The purples are the status symbol, based on cultural pressure in game.

You cannot just artificially introduce something that functions in the same manner as gold, the cultural pressure to desire it has to be there first. if the desire is there, then it will be valuable.

exactly, it ONCE did, current RL economy, adn by assumption, the future economy in EvE, is entirely faith based.

faitha s in, you have faith that those numbers in that computer at the bank will be worth the same proportianately to bannanas as they were yesterday, else you will be able to buy les banannas for the same amount. in fact, in RL currency is almost pointless, as it has to true value with nothing backing it other then the government's word and its comparative availabilty within the economic system compared tot he international economic situation of the owning country.

inf act, having NO TANGIBLE money is a good thing, using pennies as an example, it costs (in the US) almost 3 cents to make a single penny, so you exend 3 pennies to generate 1, meaning the government only gets a 30% return on the currency it printed, and those 3 pennies go into the economy, making the availability of pennies in the economy slightly higher, while the government becomes poorer, cause a doubling effect of value reduction in the currency. this is true with all currency printed by any country.

in short, isk is good, gold is bad.

any economists want to correct me on any of this? im rpetty sure im getting most of it right.

Gold should be used to make shinny canes.

No srsly should be used for print boards like in real life.