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ORE ship reimbursement and upcoming expansion

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#501 - 2013-03-11 16:35:06 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:


My kids learned a long time ago that slamming doors and stomping their feet in my house = no allowance for the week. If they want to stomp around and be pissed at me, they do it outside now. They do like getting paid.


I don't have kids, but I have two nephews and a sister twenty years my junior. I use the mirror technique. When they throw a tantrum, I throw it too. More often than not, they either see how silly they look and they run away crying, or it changes their mood to one of much giggling and spasticity and playtime instead, effectively rendering their childhood rebellion defeated.


I've done that with my kids as well. It worked with the boys. Not so well with my daughter - she got her dad's sense of inappropriate escalation. Oops

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

Velicitia
XS Tech
#502 - 2013-03-11 16:37:55 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:


My kids learned a long time ago that slamming doors and stomping their feet in my house = no allowance for the week. If they want to stomp around and be pissed at me, they do it outside now. They do like getting paid.


I don't have kids, but I have two nephews and a sister twenty years my junior. I use the mirror technique. When they throw a tantrum, I throw it too. More often than not, they either see how silly they look and they run away crying, or it changes their mood to one of much giggling and spasticity and playtime instead, effectively rendering their childhood rebellion defeated.


I've done that with my kids as well. It worked with the boys. Not so well with my daughter - she got her dad's sense of inappropriate escalation. Oops



hotdrops you with 4 titans, 8 supers, 16 dreads, and 32 carriers when all you've got is a noobship?

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#503 - 2013-03-11 16:37:55 UTC
Never dont inappropriately escalate!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#504 - 2013-03-11 16:38:17 UTC
Never dont inappropriately escalate!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Whitehound
#505 - 2013-03-11 16:40:01 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
The only reason I drove to the servo* was for a bottle of milk. They didn't have any in stock. Should they now pay for the fuel I wasted?

If I was allowed to answer this for myself ...

You still are allowed to answer it for yourself. You may also call a friend or your mother for the answer. Lol

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#506 - 2013-03-11 16:41:21 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
You need "help" to "sink" those "costs" , because I "know" a "gal" ?
What?
Meh, I tried to make it look relevant to the topic of the thread (Sunk costs), but I guess the innuendo wasn't strong enough.

Something about "sinking" the "cost" of your "thorax" and gals helping.
Do you get the "drift" ?

Nah, I agree. It's badly constructed.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#507 - 2013-03-11 16:43:24 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
The only reason I drove to the servo* was for a bottle of milk. They didn't have any in stock. Should they now pay for the fuel I wasted?

If I was allowed to answer this for myself ...

You still are allowed to answer it for yourself. You may also call a friend or your mother for the answer. Lol


Yep. And like I said, if I'm honest, the answer is no. This would require me to be... wait for it... honest. The problem is, we aren't seeing honesty, we're seeing rhetoric and excuses, when sometimes the only honest answer is "**** happens, get over it and get used to it."

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Whitehound
#508 - 2013-03-11 16:43:43 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
All that aside, why are we still having to talk about this?

For the same reason why you have to ask.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Whitehound
#509 - 2013-03-11 16:45:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Yep. And like I said, if I'm honest, the answer is no. This would require me to be... wait for it... honest. The problem is, we aren't seeing honesty, we're seeing rhetoric and excuses, when sometimes the only honest answer is "**** happens, get over it and get used to it."

Oh, I am being honest. What makes you think I am not?

Besides, "**** happens, get over it and get used to it." is not honest, but sad.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#510 - 2013-03-11 16:46:32 UTC
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
You need "help" to "sink" those "costs" , because I "know" a "gal" ?
What?
Meh, I tried to make it look relevant to the topic of the thread (Sunk costs), but I guess the innuendo wasn't strong enough.

Something about "sinking" the "cost" of your "thorax" and gals helping.
Do you get the "drift" ?

Nah, I agree. It's badly constructed.


Instead of the word "cost", try "assets" P

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Dave Stark
#511 - 2013-03-11 16:47:19 UTC
27 pages? i think the other thread, that actually got an answer, that makes this thread hopelessly redundant, didn't even manage that many pages.

then again, the moderators didn't ignore it, moved it to the relevant forum, and let it die.
Whitehound
#512 - 2013-03-11 16:47:35 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
No, you read all [yadda yadda irrelevant and incorrect non-answers to the questions]
So you agree, then — for the third time — that there is no grounds for reimbursement.
Well, I suppose that settles that, then.

Thank you for finally seeing things our way even if it had to be dragged out of you.
Had it not been easier to just say that to begin with?

There is no need for you to be hurt.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#513 - 2013-03-11 16:49:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Whitehound wrote:
There is no need for you to be hurt.
Why would I be hurt by you finally coming over to my side?
I think is an excellent development, and I just wish you could do it with a bit less of your impotent kicking and screaming next time.

Quote:
Oh, I am being honest. What makes you think I am not?
Perhaps the fact that you lie?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#514 - 2013-03-11 16:50:55 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Yep. And like I said, if I'm honest, the answer is no. This would require me to be... wait for it... honest. The problem is, we aren't seeing honesty, we're seeing rhetoric and excuses, when sometimes the only honest answer is "**** happens, get over it and get used to it."

Oh, I am being honest. What makes you think I am not?


Every single post where you've dodged a question or told someone you weren't talking to them, or tried to accuse someone of not understanding you without clarifying your position, or used rhetoric.... eg: "for the same reason you have to ask the question" doesn't explain the reason, it's just rhetorical nonsense that means nothing. It's like being asked "if 5 take 4 is a, what is a?" and answering with "the difference between 5 and 4". But the answer is "one". Simple, concise, straight up no beating around the bush nonsense. You're playing games with words and you probably don't know the meaning of anything you say yourself.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#515 - 2013-03-11 16:51:53 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
You need "help" to "sink" those "costs" , because I "know" a "gal" ?
What?
Meh, I tried to make it look relevant to the topic of the thread (Sunk costs), but I guess the innuendo wasn't strong enough.

Something about "sinking" the "cost" of your "thorax" and gals helping.
Do you get the "drift" ?

Nah, I agree. It's badly constructed.


Instead of the word "cost", try "assets" P
That's quite the improvement. I am certain the "deliverance" of the "thrust of the argument" is going to improve.
Damn you're good.

@Whitehound:
The reason I, and probably others, think you're dishonest is found in your posts.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#516 - 2013-03-11 16:52:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
Whitehound wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Yep. And like I said, if I'm honest, the answer is no. This would require me to be... wait for it... honest. The problem is, we aren't seeing honesty, we're seeing rhetoric and excuses, when sometimes the only honest answer is "**** happens, get over it and get used to it."

Oh, I am being honest. What makes you think I am not?


OK, now that we're 26 pages in ... let's recap...

Whitehound -- pissed that some people in the future will have it easier to train for a support vessel than he did. (or something -- pretty much saying dumb things that make no sense)

Solstice, Mag's, Alphea - "maneuvering" their "Thoraxes" into the proper "position"
Me -- falling in with the above, and also trying to figure out why all the QQ over the Orca change (srsly, I'd have expected people to be more upset about BS 5 getting lowered to 4 for caps).
Tippia -- doing her thing to make the OP look foolish.
Remiel and others -- similar "you're wrong boss" posting.
Everyone else -- WTF is going on here?!

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Whitehound
#517 - 2013-03-11 16:52:24 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Every single post where you've dodged a question or told someone you weren't talking to them...

But I was not replying to them. Why should I lie about it?

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#518 - 2013-03-11 16:55:41 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
But I was not replying to them. Why should I lie about it?
You really shouldn't, and yet, you are. Why is that?
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#519 - 2013-03-11 16:57:36 UTC  |  Edited by: De'Veldrin
Velicitia wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:

I've done that with my kids as well. It worked with the boys. Not so well with my daughter - she got her dad's sense of inappropriate escalation. Oops



hotdrops you with 4 titans, 8 supers, 16 dreads, and 32 carriers when all you've got is a noobship?


Worse, she calls in the Mom(my wife), manipulates the argument to make me look like an ass and then assumes a :smug: while Mom bitches me out.

Whitehound wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
All that aside, why are we still having to talk about this?

For the same reason why you have to ask.


I wasn't asking you. Please cease replying to my public questions that were not specifically directed to you.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

Whitehound
#520 - 2013-03-11 16:58:54 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Whitehound -- pissed that some people in the future will have it easier to train for a support vessel than he did. (or something)

What makes you think I am pissed?? I am not even close to being pissed, upset or angry. I am greatly amused! Amused over how some play the role of CCP, thinking they need to answer the requests of others. I wish I could watch this on video and how they dress up as little CCP staff holding their speeches. CCP should allow for this on the next Fanfest! I'd watch it. Maybe call it "The Parrot Show".

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.