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General strategy for defeating kiting Caracal
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Skelee VI
Appetite 4 Destruction
#21 - 2013-03-11 13:48:10 UTC
Vengeance, dual ASB jag, maybe a sentiel
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#22 - 2013-03-11 14:55:41 UTC
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My word, old chap. You forgot to tell me you have written a blog post about it: Magic Nullification: Countering Kiting (I accidentally a link)


That was Petrus. He is not my alt, just my slave.
Skarp Severasse
The Untraceable
M A R A K U G A
#23 - 2013-03-11 15:07:52 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
That was Petrus. He is not my alt, just my slave.

Lol
lollerwaffle
Perkone
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-03-12 03:37:25 UTC
What about something like this? LolLol

[Caldari Navy Hookbill, Anti cruiser fit]
Co-Processor II
Ballistic Control System II

Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Warp Disruptor II
1MN Microwarpdrive II

Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Cap is an issue, and anything faster than you will kill you in a heartbeat, damps the caracal down to 19km lock range (stacking sucks)

EHP: 2,774
DPS: 139
Cap: 31s w/ everything on
Mobility: 3299 m/s (4.6s align)

Alternatively swap out lows for 2x nanofibers and lose some fitting mods for more mobility LOL

/trollfit
Umega
Solis Mensa
#25 - 2013-03-12 05:41:07 UTC
CN Caracal vs dessie/frig.. Ishkur. Derp.

Sorta standard cookie cutter Ishkur.. ions, c-boost, AB, scram, SAR, DCU, EANM, 5x hobs.. here is the tricky bit. Overdrive and last 25m3 bay space going to a flight of webber drones. Have web drones out, aggressive aggro.. you get damped, they don't.. overheat AB and scream in.. scram out the MWD, switch to hobs. Easily tank kin RLMLs from a CN-car in an Ishkur.

Regular Caracal. Drop the EANM for an explosive one.. and give it a whirl. He might end up be spending 20-30 seconds on reloads trying to find your hole.. while you simply go void + hobs and unload.

Some cookies are better with different toppings.. it's ok to try the other flavors.

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Skarp Severasse
The Untraceable
M A R A K U G A
#26 - 2013-03-12 06:06:07 UTC
Umega wrote:
CN Caracal vs dessie/frig.. Ishkur. Derp.

Sorta standard cookie cutter Ishkur.. ions, c-boost, AB, scram, SAR, DCU, EANM, 5x hobs.. here is the tricky bit. Overdrive and last 25m3 bay space going to a flight of webber drones. Have web drones out, aggressive aggro.. you get damped, they don't.. overheat AB and scream in.. scram out the MWD, switch to hobs. Easily tank kin RLMLs from a CN-car in an Ishkur.

Regular Caracal. Drop the EANM for an explosive one.. and give it a whirl. He might end up be spending 20-30 seconds on reloads trying to find your hole.. while you simply go void + hobs and unload.

Some cookies are better with different toppings.. it's ok to try the other flavors.

Nice. Very creative. And it sounds fun.
Tiffany Starr
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-03-13 04:47:30 UTC
Quote:
What would be the general strategy for defeating this bugger in a frigate or destroyer? I know the DPS is low, but for a frig it would certainly be enough to kill it. I think even fast destroyers would be hard pressed because they wouldn't be that much faster than the Caracal. But I could be wrong. I hear speed is the way to go, but would any ship even get within scram range before it died?

If you could come up with a solution for a young pilot with limited skills, that would be even better.


I think I've identified the problem!
Tsubutai
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-03-14 11:30:08 UTC
lollerwaffle wrote:
What about something like this? LolLol

[Caldari Navy Hookbill, Anti cruiser fit]

Even if you have a full HG Snake set and skirmish links, an RLM caracal will be able to force that off with FOFs long before you can put a dent in its shields.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#29 - 2013-03-14 12:17:02 UTC
Skarp Severasse wrote:
Umega wrote:
CN Caracal vs dessie/frig.. Ishkur. Derp.

Sorta standard cookie cutter Ishkur.. ions, c-boost, AB, scram, SAR, DCU, EANM, 5x hobs.. here is the tricky bit. Overdrive and last 25m3 bay space going to a flight of webber drones. Have web drones out, aggressive aggro.. you get damped, they don't.. overheat AB and scream in.. scram out the MWD, switch to hobs. Easily tank kin RLMLs from a CN-car in an Ishkur.

Regular Caracal. Drop the EANM for an explosive one.. and give it a whirl. He might end up be spending 20-30 seconds on reloads trying to find your hole.. while you simply go void + hobs and unload.

Some cookies are better with different toppings.. it's ok to try the other flavors.

Nice. Very creative. And it sounds fun.


He would just switch to explosive and kill you, having a hardener wont make it your best res.. it will still be your second worst..

Also web drones are useless, don't use them. they will slow that caracal down by about 1%

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

lollerwaffle
Perkone
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-03-18 12:02:13 UTC
Tsubutai wrote:
lollerwaffle wrote:
What about something like this? LolLol

[Caldari Navy Hookbill, Anti cruiser fit]

Even if you have a full HG Snake set and skirmish links, an RLM caracal will be able to force that off with FOFs long before you can put a dent in its shields.

Yeh I guess so, but like I said at the end, '/trollfit'

I don't think anyone would seriously consider flying that, waaaayy too situational.

OTOH, are FOF's commonly carried by RML Caracals? Forgot about those (shows how long I haven't played)
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