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All T2 ships should be as awesome as this.

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#21 - 2013-03-10 07:55:47 UTC
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Diesel47 wrote:
Look at the Kestrel: http://evewiz.com/379-522-large/kestrel-caldari-frigate-ship.jpg

Now look at the "new" Manticore: http://sgtbenton.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/manticore_branded_small1.jpg


I'd love to see all the T2 variants of T1 ships follow some kind of similar approach.

It makes sense to have the T1 variant look like something that was mass produced in a factory and the T2s to look like ultra sleek high tech vessels. The Kestrel and Manticore both look similar, you can tell they are based on the same design. But the Manti is the one that looks better because its the T2 variant.

For example, we have the caracal and the Cerberus. The Cerb is just a caracal model with a reskin. I'd like to see it have a new model that resembles a caracal but with T2 aesthetics.



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Citizen of Solitude
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-03-10 08:30:53 UTC
I enjoy the small changes to the ships like they did with the assault frigs and interceptors.
They dont have to be as warped as the new bombers [infact I prefer them not to be] but the different decal T2 ships are about as boring as it gets.

The Phobos looks amazing and yet the Deimos is just a repaint of the thorax, the Vargur and Kronos look good aswell but the Golem and Apoc are still just repaints at the moment.

I also think they should have each manufacturer have their own style of hull changes, like how with the minmatar the thukkers and Boundless have very distinctive sails. [while core complexion just adds more smaller sails to their ships]

Correct me if Im wrong but the other races seem to be currently missing this distinction.

On a somewhat unrelated note, I would love it if CCP introduced 4 new T2 manufacturers

Amarr and minmatar now have a reason to have a drone and missile developer respectively.

A gallente manufacturer that focusses on shields a bit more would be interesting too.

And Caldari could use ships that can actually fly at decent speed [lore already states that the caldari were able to counter the gallente simply because the gallente had sluggish cruisers compared to their nimble fighters].
Sukuuvesta apparently designed the engines for some of the caldari capital ships, so they would be a good choice.

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Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#23 - 2013-03-10 08:51:06 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:

Any plans to change the Golem and Widow models? Even just a tiny bit?


To be honest, the Widow and Golem models both look above average at the moment since they were quite recently redone.

I'd be far more interested in a new Ishukone skin (that gold to black gradient is very ugly, and now we dont even get to see the Rhea in the old colors) or an updated dominix/moa/imicus/bantam/etc model, but maybe that's just me.
Leper ofBacon
HELP GRANDMA SMASH HER LEGS IN
#24 - 2013-03-10 09:53:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Leper ofBacon
Agreed, CCP did an excellent job on the manticore. Now we want more. It makes the earlier t2 hulls like the enyo look disappointing by comparison.
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-03-10 10:03:37 UTC
Leper ofBacon wrote:
Agreed, CCP did an excellent job on the manticore. Now we want more. It makes the earlier t2 hulls like the enyo look disappointing by comparison.


Yep, the manticore is a work of art.
Jensaro Koraka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-03-10 11:21:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jensaro Koraka
Diesel47 wrote:
Look at the Kestrel: http://evewiz.com/379-522-large/kestrel-caldari-frigate-ship.jpg

Now look at the "new" Manticore: http://sgtbenton.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/manticore_branded_small1.jpg


I'd love to see all the T2 variants of T1 ships follow some kind of similar approach.

It makes sense to have the T1 variant look like something that was mass produced in a factory and the T2s to look like ultra sleek high tech vessels. The Kestrel and Manticore both look similar, you can tell they are based on the same design. But the Manti is the one that looks better because its the T2 variant.

For example, we have the caracal and the Cerberus. The Cerb is just a caracal model with a reskin. I'd like to see it have a new model that resembles a caracal but with T2 aesthetics.

They remodeled the stealth bombers because they couldn't make large launchers fit on the old ones.

CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
we are working on it

Cool.

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CCP BunnyVirus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#27 - 2013-03-10 13:47:29 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Diesel47 wrote:
Look at the Kestrel: http://evewiz.com/379-522-large/kestrel-caldari-frigate-ship.jpg

Now look at the "new" Manticore: http://sgtbenton.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/manticore_branded_small1.jpg


I'd love to see all the T2 variants of T1 ships follow some kind of similar approach.

It makes sense to have the T1 variant look like something that was mass produced in a factory and the T2s to look like ultra sleek high tech vessels. The Kestrel and Manticore both look similar, you can tell they are based on the same design. But the Manti is the one that looks better because its the T2 variant.

For example, we have the caracal and the Cerberus. The Cerb is just a caracal model with a reskin. I'd like to see it have a new model that resembles a caracal but with T2 aesthetics.



we are working on it


Any plans to change the Golem and Widow models? Even just a tiny bit?



not atm

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Athena Maldoran
Doomheim
#28 - 2013-03-10 14:00:06 UTC
HAHAHA.. You killed them...
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-03-10 15:03:32 UTC
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:



we are working on it



I don't believe you. I require proof.
CCP BunnyVirus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#30 - 2013-03-10 16:10:29 UTC
Jada Maroo wrote:
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:



we are working on it



I don't believe you. I require proof.



TwistedCool

3D Artist
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#31 - 2013-03-10 16:58:05 UTC
Liafcipe9000 wrote:
petition:

CCP! RETURN THE HOUND'S SHARK FIN WINGY BITS!

/petition


I actually like the current design better. Looks like a girder with the bare minumum to make it move in space and launch a bomb.
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#32 - 2013-03-10 22:09:27 UTC
BunnyVirus, thanks for the link. I almost missed it. Smile
Ken 1138
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-03-11 00:35:06 UTC
Marauders should be the biggest bulkiest battleships in EVE. To reflect their "natural" toughness and not a a reskinned battleship.
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#34 - 2013-03-11 02:12:50 UTC
Except that marauders have weaker passive tank (something I would associate with being big and bulky) than their navy counterparts?
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#35 - 2013-03-11 09:45:48 UTC
Destoya wrote:
Except that marauders have weaker passive tank (something I would associate with being big and bulky) than their navy counterparts?



Swap active tank bonus for resistance bonus on all marauders tbh.

Katrina Oniseki
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-03-11 10:39:53 UTC
Look at the kestel
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-03-11 11:34:11 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
Look at the kestel



Love it, I want one :)


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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-03-11 11:39:33 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Destoya wrote:
Except that marauders have weaker passive tank (something I would associate with being big and bulky) than their navy counterparts?



Swap active tank bonus for resistance bonus on all marauders tbh.

They're not supposed to be PVP battleships, at least not according to their original design. Hence the active tank bonus and the low sensor strength.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#39 - 2013-03-11 12:05:57 UTC
If you think about it it makes sense that actual structural changes to T2 variants would be in the works.

If we gain the ability to (one way or another) change the paint job on our ships to various corporate color schemes there really needs to be a more distinct difference between T1 and T2 varieties of a given hull.

This probably means that different color schemes is still a ways off, as they would want to have most (if not all) T2 hull models redone before customization becomes available... so that's a good news/bad news sort of thing.

Still, in the long run we would be in a pretty sweet spot visually when it's all done.

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Frank Doberman
7th Church of the Apocalyptic Lawnmower
#40 - 2013-03-11 13:08:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Frank Doberman
Eve needs more

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ships, especially Khanid ones. I want a black and silver vertical drone boat that fires HAM's and can warp cloaked and has the old style 'Doomsday' weapon.

Do it CCP. Do it now.
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